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Is Free Republic a Fraud? Is it time for Free Republic to go away?
Free Republic | 11/28/01 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 11/28/2001 7:31:29 PM PST by Jim Robinson

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To: Cyber Liberty; harrowup
I counted before I saw that you had already done it. Next time, I'll look before I post (which, of course, will be a first for me).

harrowup, I know. It's just inviting response. But he has been SAYING he's not going to stay here for about four days now. He was ASKED to leave and keeps coming back. Go figure.

3,201 posted on 12/03/2001 8:32:54 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Impeach the Boy
You forgot "immoral conservatives," the exact opposite of "moral conservatives," which they claim to be.

Charming, huh?

3,202 posted on 12/03/2001 8:34:18 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Ya know, the republican party is an inclusive party...although the demorats make the claim, they are not. I am a social conservative (very much so), but I realize that I cannot force my views on others, and that we need ALL of our factions to beat the monolith party. When I have a choice, I vote for the MOST conservative canidate available ..when I am faced with a democrat or a moderate republican, I hold my nose and do what is still BEST for the country...and I NEVER vote for the "moral" party that want to legalize drugs and hide their heads in the sand concerning going to war.
3,203 posted on 12/03/2001 8:47:28 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Impeach the Boy
Well, I thought one of the very things that sent real conservatives into orbit was OTHER PEOPLE trying to force THEIR views down OUR throats. Go figure.
3,204 posted on 12/03/2001 8:56:17 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Solson
How lame was *that???!? remark, anyway? Jeeze.
3,205 posted on 12/03/2001 9:12:33 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: diotima
I didn't take it as a sexist remark. Just a childish one. Whatever. The important thing is that IronJack is a gentleman and a scholar. He inspires and deserves loyalty from all freepers...and vice-versa, because he IS doing very important and meaningful work, as he pointed out.

Btw: it's too bad that Horowitz wasn't able to cruise with ya'll. He might've been willing to fill you guys (except for IronJack) in on how the antifreepers came onto some threads a long time ago, trashed him (Horowitz), and then emailed him the hit-pieces saying "See?? Freepers hate your guts, Mr. Horowitz!"......(and to his credit, Horowitz didn't run away crying, Justin Raimondo notwithstanding).

3,206 posted on 12/03/2001 9:25:12 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: OhREALLY?; IronJack
Here's a little bit re Iron Jack....all in the name of setting the record straight.....I was on Fire Talk (geeze, it's been about 1-1/2 - 2 years ago) in a room with a lot of FReepers--women and men--when Iron Jack went on an on for several minutes about how impressed he is with "conservative women"....how they more than hold their own in debate, and aren't whiners, etc.

That said, I have seen the 'other side'........so it isn't right to paint him with just one big brush stroke. :)

Iron Jack.....just flagging cause your name's being bandied around....could care less if it changes your opinion of me.

3,207 posted on 12/03/2001 9:53:56 AM PST by Rowdee
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To: OhREALLY?; IronJack
Here's a little bit re Iron Jack....all in the name of setting the record straight.....I was on Fire Talk (geeze, it's been about 1-1/2 - 2 years ago) in a room with a lot of FReepers--women and men--when Iron Jack went on an on for several minutes about how impressed he is with "conservative women"....how they more than hold their own in debate, and aren't whiners, etc.

That said, I have seen the 'other side'........so it isn't right to paint him with just one big brush stroke. :)

Iron Jack.....just flagging cause your name's being bandied around....could care less if it changes your opinion of me.

3,208 posted on 12/03/2001 9:54:10 AM PST by Rowdee
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To: unsycophant
Par for the course. We're just a misunderstood lot...very similar to Hobbits....
3,209 posted on 12/03/2001 11:06:06 AM PST by Solson
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To: OhREALLY?
You are Head Moderator here right?

No, you are the "head" moderator, as I understand it.

3,210 posted on 12/03/2001 1:49:01 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Rowdee; ReaganGirl; diotima; abner
Thank you for the testimonials, including your praise with faint damnation, Rowdee. Being a man, I have probably said some things that could be construed as sexist, especially if you're a whining leftist professional victim. But again, I present my challenge to my detractor: cite any posts you've seen of mine that were "sexist." If you can't, shut your toast hole.

The depths to which this thread has sunk is making my ears pop.

3,211 posted on 12/03/2001 1:56:13 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Fury
Thanks for the support. It was getting dangerous out there, what with the shrapnel flying and all.
3,212 posted on 12/03/2001 1:57:46 PM PST by IronJack
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To: unsycophant
He might've been willing to fill you guys (except for IronJack) in on how the antifreepers came onto some threads a long time ago, trashed him (Horowitz), and then emailed him the hit-pieces saying "See?? Freepers hate your guts, Mr. Horowitz!"......(and to his credit, Horowitz didn't run away crying, Justin Raimondo notwithstanding).

Actually, I've been in touch with Mr. Raimondo on several occasions, and have developed quite a respect for him. I also admire and speak intermittently with David Horowitz. Horowitz isn't stupid, and I think he knows how to street fight with the best. The AFs are way, way out of their league if they're trying to bluster him.

Of course, the AFs are out of their league trying to steal Girl Scout cookies.

3,213 posted on 12/03/2001 2:03:57 PM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack
Actually, I believe that Justin is still a member of one or both of our Yahoo! clubs. ("Our" being friends of Free Republic, an awesome and multi-talented group of people!). I couldn't disagree more with most of Justin's political views, but I admire his writing skills and ability to provoke personal introspection every time I read one of his pieces. Plus, he has been a very good friend to Free Republic.

As a result of antifreeper's actions, Horowitz visited Free Republic in a Town Hall format, so their plan backfired, as you probably know. Justin made several appearances there, and it was interesting to view the give and take between the two old adversaries.

ps: "head" moderator?? toast hole?? tsk.tsk. You'd best not let harrowup see that. He's got an itchy trigger finger.

3,214 posted on 12/03/2001 4:27:58 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: IronJack
The depths to which this thread has sunk is making my ears pop.

Agreed...thankfully it's slowing down now so perhaps we can get back to our real lives. My husband hasn't seen me so glued to the computer this much since we've been married. I think it's starting to frighten him...LOL

3,215 posted on 12/03/2001 5:07:29 PM PST by ReaganGirl
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To: unsycophant
As a result of antifreeper's actions, Horowitz visited Free Republic in a Town Hall format

At the risk of seeming immodest, Horowitz visited Free Republic's Town Hall in March of 2000 as a result of MY actions. The AFs had nothing to do with it. I contacted Horowitz, arranged the Town Hall, and moderated it.[end brag]

Justin is an articulate, even-tempered gentleman on this forum, even when he draws some of the vilest attacks of any "outsider." His views are always welcome, as far as I'm concerned, even if they're sure to draw fire. From what I've seen, he can take it.

3,216 posted on 12/03/2001 5:42:08 PM PST by IronJack
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To: ReaganGirl
Agreed...thankfully it's slowing down now so perhaps we can get back to our real lives.

Yep. Why do I feel like a British grenadier after an attack by the Zulus? Time to police the brass and tend to the wounded, then hunker down and wait for another wave. I'll stand the first watch ...

3,217 posted on 12/03/2001 5:55:06 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Impeach the Boy
Alan....get a thicker skin...

Go tell that to the abuse-button crybabies. I've never used it in the two years I've been here. I wish JR would put up an abuse-button statistics page so we can see who the top 100 abuse-button users are. Then you could go tell them to grow thicker skin.

You boys are so civil when you call GOPer's names like statist, socialist, and anti-liberty dolts...

What would you call them? Friends of Liberty? Defenders of Freedom? The party of smaller government? Either you haven't been keeping up with current events or you're living in denial.

you are SO REASONABLE when you guys say that we live in a police state...

Ashcroft: "We'll watch religious groups."

...and Ashcroft is akin to the anti-Christ...

I'm sure he will only monitor "bad" religious groups. It will be kind of like how the WOD only affects drug users and how gun control only affects criminals.

...it is good you and your friends are still here....we do have our food fights, but we do NOT lower ourselves to the level of liberals who tell out right lies about those with whom they disagree.

I remember when FR was the Internet stronghold of liberty and limited government. If I was you I'd be worried.

3,218 posted on 12/03/2001 7:43:58 PM PST by Alan Chapman
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To: IronJack
YOU? Immodest? Nevah! Those wacky antifreepers made the claim that THEY provoked Horowitz into coming to the Town Hall Forum at Free Republic after the email-fest. Jeeze Louise, they lied?

No mattah. They always do. Ciao, kitten. I'll catch you another day in Hysterical-i-forn-aye-ay. I'm off for some "cultivation"-heavy emphasis on 'cult' (wink-wink, afers).

3,219 posted on 12/03/2001 8:42:54 PM PST by unsycophant
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To: Rowdee
"Jack went on an on for several minutes about how impressed he is with "conservative women"....how they more than hold their own in debate, and aren't whiners, etc."

Oh REALLY? Telling someone to take their meds etc. ad nauseum, is his way of showing how impressed he is with conservative wimmin? I treat conservative wimmin with real respect. Why is it he assumes anyone that doesn't agree with him is on meds? He's the one that sounds a little toked up to me.

3,220 posted on 12/03/2001 9:01:09 PM PST by OhREALLY?
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