[cajungirl]

I like this lady but this is a false choice. It is not as if what she suggests, schools, etc., cannot be accomplished at the same time as the liberation of the women does. It is not an either/or kiind of thing. And with schools, etc, all it would take is a change of heart for the men in Afghanistan to reinstitute the burka and their hateful ways. The elevation of the women to equal status must occur or all else is flimsy and easily reversible. You take off those burkas, let those women speak out and fore you know it there is no way things will go back. Plus they can tongue lash their husbands, bash men at coffee, make tasteless lists of how men are like pigs,,,just like us girls here. We will get together and telll horror stories to each other.

[Revolting cat!]

. The elevation of the women to equal status must occur or all else is flimsy and easily reversible.

That's a noble and a correct thought (I mean it,) but I think we must get away from the notion that we in the West know what must occur in the undeveloped countries. Read Cicero's post #13. Even if this does occur, it is unlikely to have the same practical meaning as the elevation of women to equal status in the West. We have to aloo0w for that and this is what I think the General has in mind.

Have women been elevated to equal status in Japan or in other East Asian countries? The culture of Islam may be particularly problematic in this area. But hey, how did this woman become a general in the first place? Something, ahem, progressive for lack of a better word is or was there in Afghanistan and the ouster of the Talis ought to revive it, no? Am I making any sense today! (I know I was yesterday and three days before that!)

[JoeSchem]

Plus they can tongue lash their husbands, bash men at coffee, make tasteless lists of how men are like pigs,,,just like us girls here. We will get together and telll horror stories to each other.

One of your horror stories will be about how all the men migrated to the Moon with Asian online brides.

[Alas]

I don't think that woman in the rest of the world envy the women in the USA and other western countries for their freedom to parade around in throng bikini's.

I thnk her point is that there are a lot more importaqnt things to get, as women, than the ability to kill ones baby upon demand or the ability to wear mini skirts and no underwear.

She makes a ton of sense to me.

Alas