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Rush Limbaugh: Bush's FDR Example
Washington Post ^ | 11/28/2001 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 11/27/2001 8:19:47 PM PST by Pokey78

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:35 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Pokey78
Thanks, Pokey.

Listening to Rush right now, and he is going to read the article to his listeners after the break which is coming up momentarily.

42 posted on 11/28/2001 8:17:07 AM PST by RottiBiz
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To: Phantom Lord
and have as a major campaign worker a MARXIST?

Doing a little twisting there are we? Pat put his laser on the Reform Party, took it along with Falani and her backers. When she failed to keep in step with Pat's principles, she got booted.

43 posted on 11/28/2001 8:26:01 AM PST by duckln
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To: Pokey78
Every Democrat legislator, at the Federal level, at the state level, at the county board level, and at city council level, should be required to go stand at the smoking pit of the site where the World Trade Center once stood. Then they should walk down through that smoldering corner of H*ll, and have it pointed out to them that the residue on their shoes was part of the deathloam, made up of human remains who shall never be identified. People who went to work that morning, with no clue as to the fate that would befall them long before lunch. And then, if they still wish to grant amnesty to the perpetrators of this horror, if they would even consider less than the full application of appropriate punishment for this travesty, do they still feel that they are American? For some lesson went untaught, some reality was never revealed to them. There, but for the grace of God, they too could be part of that decomposing organic matter. What hateful impulse visited this great devastation upon America? And they would still turn a cheek so once more a brutal aggressor who cares nothing for any notion of "fairness", may smite them yet again??
44 posted on 11/28/2001 8:33:51 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: Phantom Lord
Not what I would call a looser or a "sucky" candidate.
Only guy he beat was Dukaucis, both were wimpy and a sucky candidates. Pat would have won that one easily.

Bob Dole a shoe-in! Your kidding, right?
I'm not. With Pat it would have been a lot closer even do able. For backing Dole over Pat, Rush helped set us back 4 years.

And current PRESIDENT Bush was such a sucky candidate that he is PRESIDENT.
Granted, in spite of being a sucky canidate, losing the popular vote, we come home conservatives squeeked in with a Electoral majority of one. Next time we won't be so lucky.

Now, would you like to lay out Pat's electoral history? Lets see... loser, loser, loser, loser. Let me know when he gets a win.
In 92 his electoral history made him the keynote speaker at the GOP convention. In 96 as electoral runner up he ran the GOP platform committee which dumb Dole trashed.

Pat got devoured by the elites. All the 'praying' and 'flagwaving' going on now, is vindication of Pat's America 1st insight. Yep, I think Pat's ideas are winning and so too eventually will Pat.

46 posted on 11/28/2001 9:07:58 AM PST by duckln
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To: Pokey78
Wow.........and IN the WP! Bump for Rush!
47 posted on 11/28/2001 9:24:08 AM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: duckln
Only guy he beat was Dukaucis, both were wimpy and a sucky candidates. Pat would have won that one easily.

Maybe if he hadnt gotten spanked in the primaries. Oh, and Rush backed Pat in the primaries in 1992 over President Bush in case your have forgotten.

I'm not. With Pat it would have been a lot closer even do able. For backing Dole over Pat, Rush helped set us back 4 years.

Again, Pat got pounded in the primaries

I think Pat's ideas are winning and so too eventually will Pat.

I doubt Pat would win an election for dog catcher. Though it shouldnt be to hard to improve on his whopping 1% in 2000. Did he even get that much? I can't remember.

Now don't get me wrong. I like Pat. But Pat's die hard supporters (a dozen or so total) crack me up with their honest belief that the "next election is ours!"

48 posted on 11/28/2001 9:25:26 AM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: duckln
The Democrat party had (had?) a member within their ranks, Lyndon La Rouche, who has pretty much become a joke, I think they even trumped up some charges that got him sent to jail (Democrats play politics as blood sport among themselves, you know). Pat Buchanan has come to occupy a position among the Republican right roughly equivalent to that of Lyndon La Rouche (except Republicans, being gentlemen, do not throw their dissidents into prison for minor infractions).
49 posted on 11/28/2001 9:39:28 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: Pokey78; YaYa123
Rush's ON FIRE today, ain't he?! Not only is he takin' on Senators Leahy and Schumer for their PRO-Terrorism stances, but he is also setting the foundation for a major argument for Georgians to go after Zell Miller to change his Vote for Majority Leader of the Senate.

Georgia FReepers...time to go fer the jugular with Senator Miller!! Either he's a Patriotic American and will rid this Country of a Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, or else he--Zell Miller--is also an Anti-American, Pro-Terrorist Ba$+ard like Leahy and Schumer!! You can force the issue...and non-Georgian FReepers will help out however we can!!

FReegards...MUD

50 posted on 11/28/2001 9:41:43 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Phantom Lord
I think you and many other posters are missing Rush's point about FDR. FDR is loved by the left and held up as America's greatest president EVER. They nary speak a bad word about him or anything he did. Today, President Bush engages in policy similar to FDR, but not nearly on the grand scale that FDR did and the left is shitting bricks.

Who cares whether or not the left is "shitting bricks"?

What matters is whether or not Bush's actions are Constitutional. They are not. Neither were FDR's. (Indeed, the Supreme Court explicitly stated FDR had no authority to intern Japanese. And, the Supreme Court upheld FDR's military tribunals only in the very limited context of 'unlawful beligerents' -- a class far narrower than those under the jursidiction of Bush's EO.)

They are wildly waiving their arms about and screaming "Unconstitutional! Consult congress! Civil Liberties! You can't do this!" Well, he can. Reason, FDR and the Supreme courts constitutional approval. Rush is pointing out the lefts hypocricy and failure to grasp reality in this situation.

Rush is no less a hypocrite. Indeed, perhaps even a greater one.

Is Bush now allowed to perjure himself? I don't see why not... Afterall, Clinton did. Right?

51 posted on 11/28/2001 9:53:55 AM PST by backup
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To: backhoe
Howdy, my Georgian Neighbor...America needs your help!!

Rush hasn't even mentioned his name in today's show, but Zell Miller has the Power to change the Dynamics of the American War on Terrorism...and Georgia FReepers should be the ones to lead the charge to force Zell Miller to do exactly that...NOW!!!!

If you could provide a link to the contact numbers and addresses for Zell Miller, the Georgian GOP Congressional Delegation, the Atlanta Newspaper and other local GA papers, and any local conservative talk show hosts in Georgia, we can use the Power of the FReep to make Senator Miller choose now..."Senator ZigZag, are you with the Patriotic Americans who are fighting the War on Terrorism, or are you gonna stick tight with the Senators Leahy and Schumer who are doing their Socialist DemonRAT Best to Obstruct Justice?!!"

Senator Miller's response to that question will determine his political future...OUR JOB as FReepers is to ensure that he is forced to answer that question...NOW!!!

Thank you in advance, my FRiend...MUD

52 posted on 11/28/2001 10:06:34 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Sagitarius
So if it was wrong when FDR did it, why are we doing it now?

Sigh...

It is intellectually consistant to say that something lesser does not reach a certain threshold though something greater does. It is something different to say that something greater does not, but something lesser does.

53 posted on 11/28/2001 10:26:09 AM PST by lepton
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To: backhoe; 4ConservativeJustices; Accountable One; AFVetGal; agrandis; AJ504; AlGone2001; AMDG...
Howdy, GA FReepers!!

Ain't it about time y'all forced Senator ZigZagZell Miller to decide if he's gonna keep supporting the anti-American DemonRAT Party that continues to Obstruct Justice in the War on Terorism...or is he prepared to change his Vote for Senate Majority Leader?!! NOW!!! You have the Power to force his hand...shouldn't you exercise that Power?!

FReegards...MUD

54 posted on 11/28/2001 10:46:43 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
Good point- I still don't know what to make of Miller- he was wished on us by clinton wannbe Barnes... & I sure did not like him as Governor! He says a lot of "conservative-like" things- probably because, as an astute politician, he sees the wind blowing that way. But I don't trust him!
55 posted on 11/28/2001 11:06:44 AM PST by backhoe
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To: Mudboy Slim
--tell ya what, I don't even get a FORM canned robot email back from him. Now cleland, even though we don't see eye to eye on hardly anything, has actually answered me back before, and it seems like he was doing the writing as well. Of course, it didn't hurt for me to drop a name of someone who is a mutual aquantaince, either I guess. Zell, oh well, what ya see is what ya get, good old boy party politics. Barnes appointed him first, so he could be an incumbent when he ran again. pretty blatant there. No idea why the south keeps voting mostly dem after all these years, as politics has switched around so much. Inertia. I ain't voting for a D or R anymore, not after this morning, two posted articles in a row showed me the outrageous crap that will continue as long as those party's dominate everything. I'm done with them, no more. Can't even remember the last D I voted for, but the R's are still fresh in my mind, and like I said, they can byte me.

there's an old saying from the 60's I actually agree with, and it's true, 'you are part of the problem, or part of the solution'. "None of the above" is the solution. The "above" in washington is the problem.

56 posted on 11/28/2001 11:19:19 AM PST by zog
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To: zog
--ALLRIGHT! I'll send him another email and fax on this issue, he's still there, we'll see what happens. I ain't voting for the scalawag, though, unless he quites the demon party and goes independent.
57 posted on 11/28/2001 11:25:33 AM PST by zog
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To: Mudboy Slim
I've called him before. He ain't going anywhere.
58 posted on 11/28/2001 12:19:24 PM PST by GuillermoX
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To: backhoe; Mudboy Slim; zog
Thanks for the PING, MUD.

Good point- I still don't know what to make of Miller- he was wished on us by clinton wannbe Barnes... & I sure did not like him as Governor!

Ditto, backhoe.

Miller is hard to figure but, in that case, it's best to ride him hard. I think we might have a chance in getting Miller to do the job on this.

As an aside, I had the surreal experience of speaking with Gov. Maddox for half an hour in his garage last week. If Zell is anything like Gov. Maddox, the Demos shouldn't count their chickens yet. (And Maddox did give Zell his first appointed job.) One of my favorite quotes was in response to my Dad's statement of introduction to him, "Governor, it's an honor to meet you but I'm not sure you'll want to talk with me. I'm a Yellow Dog Republican." He said, "I'm not a Democrat or Republican. I'm Lester Maddox." If I had any doubts about the sincerety of that statement, it was gone by the end of the visit. The entire conversation was a mix between a history of contemporary American politics and a roster of Who's Who In Government. The two people he had the least respect for were LBJ and "Peanut" Carter. At first I thought he used "Peanut" as a term of endearment; by the fourth time it was very clear it wasn't.

59 posted on 11/28/2001 12:27:12 PM PST by LTCJ
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To: Mudboy Slim
You have the Power to force his hand...shouldn't you exercise that Power?!

We haven't had a GOP governor since reconstruction, and you think we can force his hand?

Nice try. I'd still rather have him in the democrat party, than McCain in the GOP.

60 posted on 11/28/2001 12:29:01 PM PST by AlGone2001
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