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To: Non-Sequitur
Oh yeah...I detected a couple of other areas in which your claims to expertise concerning naval matters might be called into question. Especially concerning P3C Specs.

In post 134 you said: "a P-3 a mile away with those four P&W turbofans"

In post 137 you said: "a P-3 is powered by four T407-GE-400 turboprops

Make up your mind...Are they turbofans or turboprops? Are they Pratt and Whitneys or General Electric?

Heres a tidbit from http://www.history.navy.mil/planes/p3.htm that may clarify it for you.

P3C Orion

Wing span: 100 feet
Length: 117 feet
Height: 34 feet
Weight: maximum takeoff: 142,000 pounds
Speed: maximum: 473 mph

cruise: 377 mph
Ceiling: 28,300 feet
Range: maximum mission radius: 2,380 nautical miles

3 hours on station at 1,500 feet: 1,346 nautical miles
Power plant: four Allison T56-A-14 turboprop engines
Crew: 10 Contractor: Lockheed

Lessee now...Ya got the engine manufacturer wrong...
Ya got the engine model wrong...
I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on the turbofan...May have been a typo.

Your assertion that the Navy absolutely does not use towed targets (with or without I/R burners) has been shown to be a fallacy...

Makes one wonder what other areas you are inept in? Could it be that during your military career you might have been compartmentalized? Or did they just "mushroom" you???

Oh yeah...I'm an ex-squid, too. Also an 0-5...

153 posted on 12/09/2001 2:06:01 PM PST by acehai
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To: acehai
You have shown nothing except such targets exist. If the Navy uses them then which squadron supports them and where? I'll repeat that I have never encountered a towed target in any missile exercise that I was involved with. Perhaps you can enlighten me as to when you encountered them. Was it around the time that TWA 800 crashed?
156 posted on 12/09/2001 2:48:39 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: acehai
And while we are on the subject can you offer anything from your past experience that would support barf's posts? Were you on a nuclear submarine, perhaps, that test fired a missile? If not, were you in submarines and had heard of any kind of program involving firing a missile from a submarine? Were you in a P-3 squadron, using any kind of turbo-prop engine, that engaged in target towing? Any kind of target towing squadron at all? Were you ever in a missile firing exercise that involved firing at a towed target? Were you ever in a missile firing exercise in U.S. waters north of the Virginia capes? Ever on a ship that fired a missile at all? Anything you can add that would support barf's case, other than advertisements, would be appreciated.
162 posted on 12/09/2001 3:59:18 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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