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To: RadioAstronomer
If it wasn't for those pesky General Relativity equations.

To the extent that we restrict our physics to special relativity and demand that the traditional order of causation is always correct, no information can travel faster than the speed c. However, special relativity is only a special case of physics within a more general theory known as general relativity.

In general relativity the vacuum speed of light is locally invariant, but not globally invariant. The vacuum speed of light remote from a given observer need not be c. It can be greater than c and can vary with direction depending on the gravitational field involved. Because this is allowed - starships that travel between the stars faster than c are not ruled out a-priori within the physics of general relativity.
35 posted on 11/27/2001 8:06:34 PM PST by Neuromancer
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To: Neuromancer; Physicist
To the extent that we restrict our physics to special relativity and demand that the traditional order of causation is always correct, no information can travel faster than the speed c. However, special relativity is only a special case of physics within a more general theory known as general relativity.

In general relativity the vacuum speed of light is locally invariant, but not globally invariant. The vacuum speed of light remote from a given observer need not be c. It can be greater than c and can vary with direction depending on the gravitational field involved. Because this is allowed - starships that travel between the stars faster than c are not ruled out a-priori within the physics of general relativity.

I pinged an astrophysicist friend of mine who is more a gravitational physicist than I. and this is what he wrote back:

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I'm not an expert on GR but there are several things wrong with this reply.

1) Even if there is some effect of GR that causes a gravitational field to allow a "vacuum speed of light" (whatever that is) to vary with direction or be greater than c it would only occur where there are strong gravitational fields. Since the claim is about travel between stars this is not relevant.
2) I don't think that that the speed of light can vary in GR anymore than it can vary in SR. I also have no idea what he means by local vs global invariance.
3) The difference between SR and GR is the treatment on non-inertial reference frames via the principle of equivalence. I don't see how this allows a change to the basic assumption of SR, the invariance of the speed of light. I could be all wet here but I've never heard of this before.

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I have added a few web pages that may explain this a little better:

http://www.maths.soton.ac.uk/relativity/GRExplorer/Einstein/curved.htm

http://www.astronomynotes.com/relativity/s4.htm

The only thing I can think you are referring to is using exotic matter (with imaginary mass). I found a description of what I believe you are referring to:

http://home.sunrise.ch/schatzer/space-time.html

To Physicist: If I am all wet, feel free to shoot me down! :)

36 posted on 11/28/2001 3:41:13 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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