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Pakistan Charters Airlifted 3,000 al Qaeda Soldiers out of Konduz
DEBKAfile/World Net Daily-Terrorism Security Newsletter ^ | Tuesday, November 27, 2001 | Indian Army Subcontinent Intelligence Sources

Posted on 11/27/2001 10:07:59 AM PST by codebreaker

DEBKAfile's military sources after checking on this lead with army intelligence sources in the Indian subcontinent, present this explanation of the mystery (of the missing al Qaeda troops not found by U.S. Marines in the plains or mountain hideouts) as the most plausible. Those Anatovs (transport planes) were chartered by the Pakistani ISI- Inter-Service Intelligence to lift the al Qaeda contingents together with a few Taliban units out of Konduz in north Afghanistan to north Pakistan.

And that was not the end of the transfer. It is still going on. Our sources report that al Qaeda and the Taliban allies are streaming out of Kandahar in the south and crossing east into Pakistan. The two forces have thus far grouped 4,000 fighting men on the Pakistani side. According to DEBKAfile's intelligence sources, the United States hurriedly injected Marines to the south on Monday in direct response to the enemy's redeployment. That too is why the first US troop engagement was with a Taliban convoy approaching the Pakastani frontier. For the U.S. Marines' immediate objective is not to join the Northern Alliance offensive for the capture of Mullah Omar's bastion of Kandahar, but to block off the continuing passage of Taliban and al Qaeda units across the highly porous frontier.


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Is Pakistan's ISI (Inter-Service Intelligence) the bin Laden group or are they connected with the Pak government in any way?

Sounds like we are taking a side trip to the Pakistani border...

1 posted on 11/27/2001 10:07:59 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: codebreaker
WARNING: DEBKA is widely discounted by FReepers as a source of credible news.

Think about the logic of this. Does it make sense given the pervasive surveillance?

DEBKA is less credible than PRAVDA at the height of the Cold War.

Fun to read though.

2 posted on 11/27/2001 10:11:45 AM PST by Blueflag
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To: codebreaker
Sounds like we are taking a side trip to the Pakistani border...

No, smells like more Debka-ka-ka. I'm really sure that the United States, with air supremecy, would allow several Pakistani flights to land in Afghanistan to remove Al Queda members. This one is the most ludicrous Debka-ka-ka claim yet, and that's saying something...

3 posted on 11/27/2001 10:11:54 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: codebreaker
This has been addressed and refuted by the Department of Defense on several occasions. What are DEBKA's sources?
4 posted on 11/27/2001 10:12:00 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: codebreaker
If DEBKA says it's so, it isn't. Credibility meter still reading zero.
5 posted on 11/27/2001 10:12:06 AM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: codebreaker
And our AWACS didn't see them... They must have stealth technology now, in addition to nuclear weapons, in Pakistan.
6 posted on 11/27/2001 10:13:04 AM PST by b4its2late
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To: codebreaker
Another steaming truckload of horse manure from DEBKA, the folks who dreamed up 500,000 Chinese troops hiding in the Sudan.

I guess that DEBKA must believe that Antonov transport planes are now painted in stealthy "invisible paint", and are able to sneak out under the gaze of JSTARS etc.

7 posted on 11/27/2001 10:13:09 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: johniegrad
What are DEBKA's sources?

I think we've narrowed their sources down to two possiblities - bird entrails or tea leaves.

8 posted on 11/27/2001 10:13:13 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: codebreaker
Haven't you been warned about DEBKA's zero credibility before?

If DEBKA says it, the opposite is always true. Always.

9 posted on 11/27/2001 10:13:27 AM PST by wideawake
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To: codebreaker
Oh, I believe it, all right. After all, the Taliban own the sky...uh...don't they?
10 posted on 11/27/2001 10:14:07 AM PST by Billthedrill
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Oh, I believe it, all right. After all, the Taliban own the sky...uh...don't they?

Debka's going downhill. They used to at least attempt to make their stories believable. Now it seems they don't even bother. Maybe BatBoy was flying one of the planes.

11 posted on 11/27/2001 10:15:13 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: codebreaker
Did they use Price Chopper.com or Travelocity ?
12 posted on 11/27/2001 10:16:34 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: wideawake
They did call the Russian troops and equipment into Afghanistan...but this sounds incredible, I will grant you.

Could the Paks be flying low to the ground to avoid radar?

13 posted on 11/27/2001 10:17:15 AM PST by codebreaker
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To: dirtboy
My magic 8-ball states "It seems so". Therefore, it must be true. Yes this DEBKA report is correct. Ab-so-loot-lee, pos-it-tiv-lee (putting on Sean Hannity radio impersonation) pause pause stutter coh-reck.

The magic 8-ball does not lie. Its internal fluids is imbued with the all-knowing accuracy of the mighty DEBKA.

14 posted on 11/27/2001 10:21:24 AM PST by lavrenti
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To: codebreaker
This is nonsense. There is no such thing as 'flying below radar' in a mountainous country! there is no way on earth they could pull this off without us knowing about it. This would be plausible only if Bill Clinton were President. Bush and his tam would NEVER allow it.
15 posted on 11/27/2001 10:21:29 AM PST by Trust but Verify
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To: dirtboy

I think we've narrowed their sources down to two possiblities - bird entrails or tea leaves.

Hey, Mon!! Someone call muh nyme?

16 posted on 11/27/2001 10:21:31 AM PST by johniegrad
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To: dirtboy
Maybe BatBoy was flying one of the planes.

He was. Crystal ball does not lie.

17 posted on 11/27/2001 10:22:22 AM PST by dighton
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To: codebreaker
Could the Paks be flying low to the ground to avoid radar?

No.

18 posted on 11/27/2001 10:22:39 AM PST by mvscal
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To: codebreaker
They did call the Russian troops and equipment into Afghanistan

They mangled the details, and it was hardly a scoop to claim that the Russians were going to assist the Northern Alliance. So far there have been very, very few Russian troops - what ever happened to the million troops that Debka claimed were going to be sent?

19 posted on 11/27/2001 10:22:42 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: codebreaker
They did call the Russian troops and equipment into Afghanistan...

Whoa, whoa, whoa . . . hold it right there.

Their "call" was that Russia was mobilizing 100,000 troops in order to invade Afghanistan. What actually happened was that the Russian military advisers everyone already knew were working with the NA have now set up a base of operations in a vacant lot in Kabul. They're about 80 strong, not 100,000.

20 posted on 11/27/2001 10:23:08 AM PST by wideawake
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