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To: Mudboy Slim
"1. There is a left-wing slant in the media." Obviously true beyond a shadow of a doubt...This case has been made to you over and over and over again, and any attempt to deny it now will simply provide further evidence that you are being Willfully-Ignorant...AGAIN!!

There's no willful ignorance for asking for evidence. If anything, it's a form of willful ignorance to not provide that evidence when asked.

I've had a long running thread on FR (about five months old now) asking for one person to provide me one shred of evidence that the media is left-wing biased. Nobody has been able to do so. Therefore, I will go with what I've seen and heard, which is that the Big Three networks provide practically neutral reporting, and FOXNews provides coverage consistently slanted to the right.

Without Point #1, points #2 and #3 are moot, but I'll discuss them anyway...

Clinton doesn't have to necessarily organize it, the HateAmericaFirst Leftists who dominate the Network Medyuh and the Wire Services simply believe that it is good politics to profess LOATHING of our Military and to hold out Big Bid'ness Corporations as some sort of Class Envy-based BoogeyMan.

Wow, "loathing" is a strong word! Surely you must have a bunch of examples of coverage that was unneccesarily biased against the military. Remember: hating the military is very different from endorsing military budget cuts.

"3. This left-wing slant then convinced Al-Qaeda that American leftists would be sympathetic to their cause if they took down symbols of traditional "right-wing institutions"; namely, corporations and the military." That's pretty close to accurate.

If they wanted to garner American sympathy, then why did they choose a target that killed thousands of Americans? Nobody likes it when Americans die. If you want to take out the WTC, why not plan the attack for a Sunday, when next to nobody's in a building? Then the attack would have had more of the symbolic thrust you claim it was intended for.

No, their stated goal is to "kill all Americans", not "kill all conservatives" or "kill all liberals". And I might add that the Taliban is a very hard right-wing society, in their utter lack of social programs and strong social laws. If anything, wouldn't they go after left-wing targets of American immorality and decadence, such as your "Hollyweird", the Clintons, or maybe the ACLU? It doesn't add up.

Not exactly...obviously, the choice of the WTC as a target played to the Leftists' (i.e. Socialists/Collectivists/Lib'rals/Fascists/Progressives/DemocRATS/Totalitarian) professed LOATHING of Big Bid'ness and Capitalism. The choice of the Pentagon was meant to play to the Leftists' long-time LOATHING of our Military Superiority.

See my comments to #2 above.

I and others have buried you with MOUNTAINS OF INDISPUTABLE PROOF

What you've buried me with are mountains of links to other FR threads where people state their opinions, to MRC articles that take quotes severely out of context, and right-wing organizations that start with a biased premise and go from there. If we were in a court of law, none of your "evidence" would be close to admissable. Everything you've sent me has been disputable, and I have disputed it to no response. If it really was indisputable, you'd think someone would've called me on it by now, right? If you truly have indisputable evidence of any of this, bring it on and I'll be the first one to eat crow. Otherwise, don't expect me to change my tune.

67 posted on 11/30/2001 11:28:38 AM PST by dwbh
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To: dwbh
You're just wrong. There's massive bias. Everyone in the field knows it, and they're not even ashamed about it. Go down to your local paper and talk to them. They're liberal, but honest. I've never known one of them to be conservtive, and never known a reporter to lie. So, ask.
70 posted on 11/30/2001 1:33:50 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: dwbh; backhoe; Alamo-Girl; Common Tator; Darth Sidious; Darth Reagan; George W. Bush; Reagan Man
"I've had a long running thread on FR (about five months old now) asking for one person to provide me one shred of evidence that the media is left-wing biased. Nobody has been able to do so."

See, dude, that is a BALD-FACED LIE!! I've bumped you to said evidence and I've seen many others doing the same, yet still you LIE like a Lib'ral IDIOT!! And I've been patient with you because I know--deep down--YOU ARE NOT A LIB'RAL IDIOT...but yer actin' like one when you spew this sort of nonsense.

"Therefore, I will go with what I've seen and heard, which is that the Big Three networks provide practically neutral reporting, and FOXNews provides coverage consistently slanted to the right."

Yer brainwashed, dude, and in this World, IGNORANCE--WILLFUL or otherwise--will get you nowhere...MUD

83 posted on 12/01/2001 4:06:09 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: dwbh
"Hey man, if George don't git it done, I'm psyched to GIT PSYCHED about that Cowboy Cast-Off, Doug Williams, Jr.!! Skins are gonna surprise folks, I tell ya!!

Grimly Grinnin' in the Face of Sure Death...MUD

219 posted on 9/25/01 1:23 PM Eastern by Mudboy Slim"

To quote the remarkable Cassius Clay, "I'm a BAD MAN...I'm a BAAAAAD MAN!!!"

ThePrescientOne...MUD

87 posted on 12/01/2001 4:26:13 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: dwbh
"I'll be the first one to eat crow."

Yes, my self-described liberal FRiend, YES, YOU WILL!!

MUD

88 posted on 12/01/2001 4:27:51 AM PST by Mudboy Slim
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To: dwbh
"If you truly have indisputable evidence of any of this..."

Sounds familiar. Isn't this what the Taliban said to us when we suggested they hand over bin Laden?

The indisputable evidence is in front of your eyes if you watch the "news". It's in the way they frame stories with a decided favorable slant to the left. Showing b-roll of GWB, then giving 20 seconds for democRAT rebuttal, for instance. Their mission is to shape opinion (and it looks like it's working, in some "cases").

Interested in some enlightening reading? Haven't seen this book yet, but looks like it might be an eye-opener: Yes they are!

96 posted on 12/01/2001 5:39:08 AM PST by RightRules
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