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I really don't care if what I say holds water or not. I have already said that I have no proof for my beliefs, obviously, I don't have a leg to stand on. Your responses, and those of AlGone seem pretty negative to me, like this is a competition or something, and your use of terms like surrender and arguement makes me think this is not a discussion I want to be part of. All I said in my first reply was why does the author infer that if one is not a Christian, then one cannot or does not believe in God. Now it comes to arguements, and my surrender! What is wrong with you guys? Why is it so hard for you to accept that someone can believe in God, but not agree with you? I have no need of proof for my beliefs, for my own peace of mind, so why should I want to try to prove anything to you? Why can you not have a normal conversation about God without referring to the bible?

Stuart, hoping that we can once and for all move past this so we can get back to the topic at hand, please take a look at the relevant passage in my original post:

Respectful request: this thread is intended to be a discussion between those who do believe in the Bible and its end times prophecies.

There are a LOT of threads that correspond far more closely to the discussion you seem to want to engage in, but this one was pretty clearly defined, no?