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To: roughrider
The story was that "the tactical" people overruled the Director of the FBI, Sessions, concerning a visit at the site. "Tactical people" would mean Dick Rodgers, as he was the chief of the "tactical people" on site. His second-in-command, Steven McGavin, who flew overhead in the FLIR plane during the assault, was far more important in the chain-of-command than people realize.

124 posted on 11/28/01 6:08 PM Pacific by roughrider

Sounds like you and I agree on something, for perhaps the first time. IOW, the rogue group of the FBI that I've often griped about, insisting it isn't ALL of the FBI.

I've heard McGavin's name, but nothing else about him. I'm not sure of your context in saying he flew in the FLIR plane. What I'm trying to ask is--whose side was McG on? Or did someone get the tape by unusual means, since IMO it is most revealing of Govt misdoing?

127 posted on 11/28/2001 5:35:48 PM PST by katze
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To: katze
Sounds like you and I agree on something, for perhaps the first time. IOW, the rogue group of the FBI that I've often griped about, insisting it isn't ALL of the FBI.

Wouldn't call them rogues. Just the upper echelon who covers for each other--in organizations like the FBI and the Gestapo loyalty is considered a first-class virtue.

150 posted on 11/30/2001 2:39:34 AM PST by Ada Coddington
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To: katze
It was never all of the FBI, but there are fewer around now who complain about the tactical people. The old timers I knew ridiculed that stuff all the time. McGavin supervised the final assault from the FLIR plane as it orbited the scene. One of the items of evidence that was found at Quantico was the audio tape of McGavin giving permission for the HRT to use the military incendiary CS rounds on the tornado shelter roof. Rodgers was in charge of the HRT, but McGavin was in command of the 4/19 assault.
156 posted on 11/30/2001 4:43:19 PM PST by roughrider
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