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To: butter pecan fan
First the gun does not kill, liberals and illegal immigrants kill, the WTC proves it after 8 years of liberal rule in Washington. A freeper once mentioned that my keyboard here is not responsible for my spelling mistakes. Indeed.

Gavin De Becker, the messiaha of beat up boys in America who claims most women are victims of attacks by men when we know that is a lie because women repeatedly are allowed in our culture to slap men, on TV and wherever.

Gavin makes rules with statistics while statistics can be tweaked by cultural response to assaults and firearms usage. Since culture views shot kids as bad, it will be reported. Since culture views deterred attacks with guns as good, it never is reported. How many kids were saved by a guns in the home? No one really knows and Gavin ignores it. How many women were saved from abuse when their men did not slap them back after beings slapped by them? We will never know it but it is quite usual, probably much more usual than men beating women because those get reported.

Secondly statistics are not a good reason to make a law or advocate a position since stats are just stats, not true analytical evaluation of a phenomenom. Airplane accident statistics do not tell whether planes are safe or not, only the laws of the air and their verified predictive abilities tell whether planes are safe.

Inherently Guns are safer than planes and cars because they are not self propelled devices and hence are definitely more controlable. What next? Ban cars because most people die driving their own cars? So the government should drive cars because then we would not die from what we own? What a stupid reasoning. This reasoning is even stupider when we realize we own cars to make money, not defend our own lives, hence we kill ourselves for no reasons at all in cars, according to De Becker ans socialites. Beware.

Gavin de Becker as a safety expert is a total a$$. He is no engineer, he is a crytal ball watcher, because, when he was beat continuously by his dad, he "learned" to survive by instinctively predicting when he was going to be hurt, treated like a beast, he is still a beast and has not come out from his reliance on predictive abilities at the expense of analytical look back and true repent. In fact he survived by sheer luck but still insist in his insanity that his instinct and predictive psychic abilities saved him... "sure, Gavin, nice Gavin, why don't you go out and take some fresh air Gavin"

Last but not least, it is abuse and not ownership that should be punished, Gavin better get his a$$ out of my sight if I crossed it, because it is enough that he has removed reasonable doubt against men like me in favor of women, that I am sick and tired of him removing reasonable doubt from a gun owner but not someone piercing their nose abusively with rings.

Oh, and I might add, why was Gavin beat up all the time? He did not have a gun to kill his attacker, that is why, and now he tries to tell us to live a successful life like he did when we know he is lucky because 99% of people that lived his life never actualy lived it.

Gavin is another false prophet, with false cures, without repent, just like his dad, never repenting, abusing the people the way his dad did. He is a psycho selling dangerous cures to people.

14 posted on 11/26/2001 9:30:15 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
Thanks for the background info on de Becker. Interesting...
19 posted on 11/26/2001 9:36:10 AM PST by butter pecan fan
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To: lavaroise
Why not just cut to the chase?

Gavin de Becker is a consultant to the "thought" police.

He is an "expert" only because he holds himself out to be an expert. Click on his name for his sickeningly self-praising bio from his website. Here's a sample:

He has appeared as an expert on every major news show and has been interviewed several times by Oprah Winfrey, Larry King, Maria Shriver, Sam Donaldson, Mike Wallace, and Ed Bradley. He's been quoted and profiled in TIME and Newsweek, U.S. News & World Report, the New York Times, and many other publications.

31 posted on 11/26/2001 9:58:49 AM PST by Fixit
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