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To: Cuttnhorse
You are so right...was in Joberg, actually Sandton, and never felt very comfortable even walking around that upscale part of town. Went to the mall to buy a Springboks jersey and that was about it. What is interesting, I was warned by Safrican friends not to venture out in the evening, even in Sandton

Wasn't that bad last time I was there ('97)... Sandton was supposed to be pretty safe. I stayed at the Holiday Inn in Pretoria a few days and it wasn't too bad at night. Thought it was pretty funny that you had to pay to have your car guarded while parked on a busy public street though.

Everybody (black & white) said don't go to Joburg at night, and from the look of it in daylight, I wouldn't want to. Damn shame whats happening over there. In this country, when you start making enough money that you can afford luxuries, you start buying things to improve your lifestyle. Over there, if you want to keep anything, you have to spend a fortune on security systems first. I read on another thread that thieves are actually going into nice neighborhoods and stealing the grass to sell as sod!

82 posted on 11/25/2001 6:58:53 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
I was only passing through on the way to Tanzania from South America a few months ago and you are right, Sandton is a pretty nice place but still no place for a white to be wandering around alone at night.

The home security demands are pretty much universal in Africa it seems. In Dar es Salaam, all homes have a "safe haven" room which is usually a room on the second floor with an iron door at the top of the stairway. The understanding is that the thieves can ransack the house but tend to leave everyone alone in the "safe haven" part of the house. More often than not, the local private security personnel are involved in the robberies. Nice way to live, no??

87 posted on 11/25/2001 7:16:59 AM PST by Cuttnhorse
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