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To: Lancey Howard
The whites should run, don't walk

The problem with that is the ancestors of those whites have been in southern africa as long or longer than the blacks (and as long as OUR ancestors have been here). The handful of natives of the southernmost regions of SA were killed off or assimilated. The blacks there now were either brought as slaves or migrated there to live by working for (or stealing from) the 'evil' white man.

If civilization flees every time the 3rd world hordes become the majority, western civilization will eventually die (kalifornia would be gone already!). I personally think that the UN should help create a white country out of part of South Africa. Its pretty obvious by now that black africans cannot respect the rights of minorities, and the whites BUILT that country. They're seeing it destroyed every day, but they shouldn't have to give up everything.

Don't shed too many tears for the white Rhodesians. A lot of them are good people but most are english. Just as in SA, the english brought the collapse of southern africa onto themselves by buying into the liberal PC crap from the western world. There might have only been a few million whites in southern africa, but they could have held on forever if they had wanted to. And the english have a place to go now that their homes there are being overrun.

We should all pity the Afrikkaners though. The 'white tribe' of africa has nowhere to run to. They are the people who built SA into a powerful nation. They are, in my opinion, the finest examples left of the people who left northern europe and spread civilization throughout the world. They are a culture that should be preserved.

28 posted on 11/25/2001 4:14:46 AM PST by LIBERTARIAN JOE
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
Actually, there were always blacks in SA. The "no blacks were here" is an urban legend. There always has been and there always will be blacks in Africa. And South Africa is no exception. The whites were perfectly happy with black labor until it bit them in the ass. This is a perfect example of allowing a problem to grow until you can't control it. Killed by your own greed.

Any whites left in SA/Rhodesia is suicidal. Rhodesia will turn into a giant sucking mouth on the tit of the world soon. SA will follow later.

33 posted on 11/25/2001 4:24:50 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
They declared a UDI against the UK, the only country to do so other than the USA, rather than submit to majority rule. They fought (ever wonder where all those war veterans come from) against Mugabe's hordes even after South Africa, their only major remaining trading partner betrayed them in hopes of getting some benefit for itself before being doublecrossed again. I would hardly say that they bought into the "liberal, pc crap". In fact, it took a lot more to force them into their current situation then it took the whites of SA, of both tribes.
36 posted on 11/25/2001 4:28:48 AM PST by cmvc3
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To: LIBERTARIAN JOE
the Afrikkaners though. The 'white tribe' of africa has nowhere to run to.

If they were "politically correct" third worlders they would embark on the following strategy:

(1) Appeal to the United Nations for a state on their own.

(2) Choose the area they would like to live in and demand that it be given to them.

(3) Form a terrorist group to kill all those who oppose their plan.

(4) Decry the use of terrorism while forming a front organization to negotiate with whatever government currently holds their land.

(5) Hire a major public relations firm to convince the world they really aren't terrorists and are wonderful people.

Crazy as it sounds, the plan might actually work in a hundred years or so. ;-)
62 posted on 11/25/2001 5:35:57 AM PST by cgbg
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