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To: Lessismore
I'd like nothing more than to think that a kind loving God exists and that Heaven is a Paradise after death.

I think Star Trek Generations showed one of the problems even with this concept, though. In the "Nexus" one can exist at any moment in time, even moments that never existed. In some sense, it's like the idea of Paradise.

After jumping his horse over an obstacle, Kirk stops, visibly disappointed. The thrill he usually felt while jumping that obstacle had dissipated, as there was no threat of danger and he KNEW it.

Even an eternity of great things both physical/spiritual is an AWFUL long time. Not to say I wouldn't choose eternal life over oblivion, but neither concept is without its problems.

Personally, I think there may be a kind of "Force" at work, but it is so far beyond the primitive human descriptions of the divine that we might as well not talk about it.

The Way is not something to be discussed. Once you start, it is no longer the Way.

120 posted on 11/24/2001 8:07:40 AM PST by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
"Personally, I think there may be a kind of "Force" at work, but it is so far beyond the primitive human descriptions of the divine that we might as well not talk about it. The Way is not something to be discussed. Once you start, it is no longer the Way."

If my descriptions of the Divine (God) sound primitive, then that is entirely MY fault. I do not profess to be a writer or great philosopher. Do not judge the existence of God on my discription or any other person's for that matter. But rather seek Him on a one to one relationship. That is the only way to ever understand who He really is. I can tell you are seeking something.... and that is a good start! To be commended.

For your own sake, don't seek your facts from Hollywood and fictional characters. There is NO reality there! And don't fall for that old trap that says, "God is not something to be discussed" because He is far too mysterious and to bring Him to a personal level would be to take away His Godliness. Man's brain cannot conceive of God, but our soul (heart) can. The soul is a part of you that God gave to you that is unique to humans. It is through your soul that you will be able to find and commune with God. God is a lot like "the Force" in many ways. God gives the ability to share in His power and strength to all who will accept it.... the "Jedi" had to BELIEVE, then study under elders to grow. God's church is much like this. Unlike the Force, God has clearly outlined "the way" for all to see .... its in His divinely inspired word, the Holy Bible. I have no doubt that if you will read the Bible with the same enthusiasm that you read of Star Trek and Jedi Knights that you will come to glimpse God with a new light. Try it... what do you have to loose?

141 posted on 11/24/2001 9:47:42 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy
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