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A little something for your consideration the day after Thanksgiving. This is not untimely to post though even though it is after Thanksgiving. We should be thankful ALWAYS and remember the roots that gave us this land.
1 posted on 11/23/2001 3:09:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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2 posted on 11/23/2001 3:12:10 PM PST by rwfromkansas
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I appreciate your posting this. In a thread a couple of weeks ago concerning "economic models" and what theories should be followed I responded that it was the Puritans who laid the foundation for the overwhelming success of America's econmy... and that this, of course, had come about as a result of Martin Luther's Reformation. I have read several truthful, objective books on the Puritans - they are the "giants on whose shouders we stand", economy-wise. I would encourage anybody who is genuinely interested in WHY America was so, so different from all other nations and all other cultures in its early history to do an objective study on the Puritans. I believe we are still inheriting their blessings today.
5 posted on 11/23/2001 3:21:48 PM PST by waxhaw
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bttt
12 posted on 11/23/2001 3:48:39 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: rwfromkansas
...), no sane scholar can ignore the great impact that Calvinistic, Puritan theology and political theory had in the New World’s American revolt. In England, many epithets for the war - such as “The Presbyterian Rebellion” - reflected this influence.

When news of the Revolution of 1776 reached England, Prime Minister Horace Walpole said in Parliament, "Cousin America has run off with a Presbyterian parson" 8^]

Cordially,

20 posted on 11/23/2001 4:52:27 PM PST by Diamond
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Here, for instance, is an article which (in contrast to yours) actually approaches some clear-eyed reality towards the Puritans.

Dan

22 posted on 11/23/2001 6:07:11 PM PST by BibChr
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Great article!

As one descended from New England Puritan stock (my first American ancestor arrived on the "Lyon's Whelp", 1629, as part of the Winthrop expedition), and having read some of the journals of my forefathers, I have long known that the description of these first Americans as dour dispensers of gloom has been much exagerated.

Let us practice a Christianity that is so vibrant, "too glad to be true" as well.

32 posted on 11/24/2001 4:03:20 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: rwfromkansas
BTTT
33 posted on 11/24/2001 4:12:04 AM PST by Fiddlstix
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It is amazing how distorted the view of Puritans has become. Far from the dour, humorless killjoys they are portayed as in popular culture, they were vivacious, outgoing, very happy people.

They wore bright-colored clothing and had an enthusiasm for life rarely found among those around them. They were quite tolerant of other points of view--more so than other religious groups of the time.

They believed life was to be lived and enjoyed. Having fun was a religious conviction. Their wine cellars were among the largest and most varied in Europe. They believed in moderation in all things, including a daily glass of wine or two.

They also prospered in business because they worked as hard as they played. The "puritan work ethic" is no myth. In fact, I took a History of the US Economy course in college and the professor insisted that it was the puritan work ethic that made America great in the 18th and early 19th centuries. The fact that they enjoyed and indulged in sex quite often also helped to grow the population at a time when that was vital to the expansion of the economy and growth of the nation.

34 posted on 11/24/2001 4:21:07 AM PST by Skooz
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Os Guinness has written that “evangelicals are often surprised that one of the greatest examples of a Christian mind [or worldview] was at the beginning of the American story when conditions were most precarious and least settled – the Puritan movement.

Why should any Christian be surprised that God is SO GLORIFIED in the midst of the greatest of human struggles. Was our salvation purchased at a Sunday brunch? I don't think it says "Take up your cross and head for food." How could God be glorified in our salvation except that it involve the precious shedding of the blood of the Lamb and great struggles and dependence from the saints.

Any evangelical who asks such a question should also be asking just how the early Church grew so fast after Christ ascended. Why oh why would a Church grow so fast when it produced so many martyrs? Worldly logic would seem to suggest just the opposite.

Like Chesterton, many view this Calvinist race as a people being forced to “wear their blacks in a sort of endless funeral on an eternal Sabbath.”

Ha! If I have learned anything from reading my Calvinists friends here at FR it would be that they of all people should be the most thankful and joyful bunch around. God in the beginning chose us for salvation, which doesn't leave much room for grumbling. Still, I have been surprised to find that you fellows are not a stuffy bunch. I guess I'm revealing some of my prejudices.

Enjoyed!

42 posted on 11/24/2001 1:17:35 PM PST by CCWoody
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43 posted on 11/24/2001 6:00:50 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: rwfromkansas
Amen! thanks for the bump
44 posted on 11/25/2001 6:57:58 AM PST by sola gracia
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BTTT for a GREAT post!

The Puritans would be horrified to see how feminized (doctrinally weak and lacking conviction) the professing Christian church of today has become.

46 posted on 11/26/2001 7:37:04 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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