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To: rintense
Lifetime is amusing, every story is the same. The first ten minutes is really the end of the show; the woman, our tragic victim, gets murdered and we don't know who did it. Then we go back to the very beginning, where everything is so nice and she's got her life so together and then she meets a wonderful man who later turns out to be a murderer, which of course she had no way of predicting because he was such a nice, charming guy at the start. Then we have the court scene where the odds are totally stacked against the guy's conviction but somehow the guy always gets convicted anyway because some brilliant female lawyer saves the day. This crap is just like real life, isn't it? There is this real hatred of men among everyday women and they pass this attitude onto their little girls so the cycle continues. Granted there are some bad seed men but like there aren't bad seed women, too? Even in comedies, go back to Lucy even, the woman always made the man look unreasonable and ultimately stupid as she prevailed in the end to the cheers of the soundtrack crowd in the background. Could you ever imagine a show like Maude but where the tables were turned. Of course I think Maude is a man anyway but you get my point. The point to be made here is this - in many cases victimization IS the victim's fault, like when a woman is out at a bar, 2:00 A.M., drunk, accepts a ride with a stranger, etc., and this kind of stuff does happen all the time. Can these women really not know certain signs that say "this guy isn't a decent person?" I don't buy it. If that was the case then why do so many women stay with abusers until they meet with a bad end? No, people should exert a great deal of control over their own lives and if these women didn't do that then that is in large part their own fault. Victimhood is a mindset in many cases, it's self-perpetuating. And to glorify and celebrate it is downright sick.
52 posted on 11/23/2001 2:11:30 PM PST by Contra
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To: Contra
I just loooooooooooove the shows Lifetime does in which the real life Gloria Allred is a character and the "heroic female lawyer" you describe.(/sarcasm.) And there's at least three Lifetime films that use her , based on real court cases!

Lifetime gets so over the edge they've wasted money on films which are now unshowable. Remember a few years back, when lots of upper middle class girls would go to a therapist, complain that their work or love lives weren't working out, and the therapists would tell them that proved their dads had molested them? And that they were supposed to obsess over this idea until their mind started producing images or dreams about their dad molesting them, the images and dreams then being produced as evidence in court that they were in fact incest victims? And how 40+ states changed their laws to reflect the concept of "Repressed Memories" (which does exist, but not in anything like the form Roseanne, "the courage to heal" lesbian lovers, and other popularizers promulgated). Before too many years passed, False Memory Sydrome as a reality could no longer be denied, and the horrendously exaggerated form of Repressed Memory Sydrome was debunked and discarded ...But not before Lifetime did several films in which heroic lady psychologists diagnosed their clients as molest victims, based on their clothing, voice, etc, after one hour session. Always the client would tearfully admit (sooner or later) that she had indeed been victimized, and "How could you tell? (Quavery voice .) None of those films has been shown on Lifetime for 3-5 years now, because the (wildly exaggerated) concept of RMS has been so thoroughly debunked , primarily by the clinical psychiatrists who actually studied memories and the way the mind works. Though not in time to save some people, almost certainly innocent, from losing their retirement funds, their homes, or their freedom to their vengeful daughters (or do they simply get tired of waiting to inherit?) and their incompetent "therapists".

78 posted on 11/23/2001 3:28:14 PM PST by kaylar
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