Posted on 11/23/2001 7:18:23 AM PST by RealGem
You know what would help with that? It would be if mullahs and ayatollahs and imams all over the world got together and issued a joint fatwa stating that Islam has renounced the concept of jihad against other religions and has proclaimed itself to be for complete freedom of religion in all countries, and condemns all who teach otherwise to being excluded from paradise.
Don't disappont hog_waller and patria one. They believe you are a genius on matters of religion.
If you want to drag the Jews into a debate about Muslims, you make me very suspecious then yes they too are anti-Christ, but in no way do they take their belief that we Christians have corrupted their history in the Torah to the extreme violence that Muslim fanatics do.
In life as in every religion there is a rainbow of attitudes within a core belief. In the Christian community 95% will not launch a religious war, we are told to live in peace as much as possible with all men and wait for the second coming. The Jewish community will not launch a religious war unless attacked. Only some Muslims are pro-active because of the need to promote the will of some weak god that has no power of his own over mankind, and a majority of moderate Muslims seem loath to be critical of their violent brothers who live trapped in terror of a god that commands them to violence and inhuman obedience, Ben Ladin himself is quivering in a cave somewhere in terror of meeting that afterlife and that god.
"Their god promotes death or conversion of the infidel? I see this bantered alot around here, but no one seems ready to back it up with some sort of argument"Are you feigning ignorance of all the proof and dicussion that has been offered on this forum in thread after thread for two months? Are you blind to what is going on in the world around you in radical Muslim nations and their treatment of all other religions? I think your trying to fool someone here and your wasting your time, the fires have not gone out at the Towers for Muslims to deny that it ever happened.
John 14
5 Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
You know maybe I missed it, but I don't remember Mohammed teaching that the only way to God Almighty was through His Son Jesus Christ. So that makes the Bible and the koran diametrically opposed
To pose the question os to answer it.
They believe many things about Jesus Christ. It is the essential and first things about Jesus Christ that they reject and for which they will kill any Muslim who dares to believa and publicly confess.
Certainly commonalities exist. But true understanding comes in the distinctions; otherwise a wristwatch would be a grandfather clock. The commonalities are good when you ask about instruments that keep time. They're not so useful when you ask about objects you can carry in your pocket.
Now the question about the benefit of Islam over Christianity is useful only in that you've already made your case about the commonalities of both religions. Now, what are the distinctions that make Christianity the grandfather clock and Islam the pocket watch (or vice versa).
You see, if both are 99.99% the same, as you've claimed they are, why do I need my faith in Christ? Why shouldn't I be willing to become a Muslim if there are no real distinctions between these two commodities (for certainly Islam and Christianity are commodities that can be so closely compared as to judge them 99.99% identical!)
Mister, you have a lot to learn about Christianity, and evidently your own religion.
Welcome newbie. If you will listen you can learn a lot from Free Republic.
Keep in mind, the flaming you will get is not personal, but ideas have consequences.
While Jesus is considered a holy man and the PURE one and Mary is revered, they do not as far as I know believe that Jesus was crucified. They think that Judas was crucified because Jesus was too pure and without blemish to have suffered such a fate.
Mohammed's message from the beginning was that he was the messenger to get the Arabs to return to their original beliefs and give up all the small idols that had crept into their original monothesism.
The Kaaba is thought to be the alter built by Adma and Eve after they fled Eden (Dilmun) and reubilt by Noah after the flood and rebuilt again by Abraham. Jiddah is believed to be the burial place of mother Eve.
I would "guess" that this may be related to the way the Najran Christians believed.
What does Islam teach should be done to Muslims who proclaim that Jesus Christ is God, and who confess their faith in the belief that he was put to death on the cross and was resurrected three days later?Sorry, I had to run somewhere and now that I'm back I notice how you're thinking that I am avoiding you.
And you post this as you tell freebilly, Kevin Curry and myself that a_turk is the religion genious here, who stated that Christianity and Islam are 99% the same. Jesus Christ being crucufied, being THE Son of God, is the basis for "Crhistianity". See, they have relatively nothing in common when you consider the main parts.
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