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I will admit that it is not clear when a fetus becomes a human. In my mind it is somewhere between month 3 and month 6. posted by pcl
(The typical death cultist approach to frame the argument in such a way as to eliminate whatever segment of human lifetime the pukes want to marginalize. You, pcl, began your lifetime at conception. Period. There has been no time since your conception that you had not yet come into existence. Your lack of biological truth regarding the concept of human life causes you to wander off down transactional pathways hallmarked by sanctioned killing of any, repeat, ANY, class of humans a particular interest groups wishes to margenalize. You imply that some prior date after conception was the moment you came into being, when in fact it is absolutely a fact of science that YOU came into existence at conception, even before you in your natural human state began seeking life support from the female human from whose body you eventually migrated. Your reasoning could just as easily be applied to all humans from 3 months postnatal onward, with all those biological things defined as not yet human beings prior to three months postnatal ... in fact, a demon's servant named Prof. Springer at Princeton has tried that very reasoning.) It never ceases to amaze me that twisted minds like Springer's get paid high salaries by liberal colleges to spew forth so much illogic in the name of enlightenment. I'll not let your --you pcl-- foolishness pass without noting the stupidity you embrace so willingly.

You should be ashamed of trying to spew the following sh!t here at FR.

Certainly no one who truely(sic) believed that a first trimester fetus was a full human being (The fact is, you were a full human being just after conception, but your anatomy and physiology wasn't nearly as sophisticated as it appears to be now, in your delusions of godhood declarations regarding human beings. Before puberty, a child is not yet a full human being like it will be after onset of same. Want to margenalize all those at some arbitrary point of your future choosing, as your value system 'evolves'? Of course you could. Such gross evil has occurred in human history. It's time to bring such demonic idiocy to a halt, by accepting the truth, that every human lifetime begins at conception, whether in a petri dish or a fallopian tube. Your effort to establish that the beginning is not the beginning because you want to ignore the truth of the beginning and arbitrarily establish some other beginning point along the continue of individual lifetime is demented and agenda laden. There is not good reason to continue under such delusional thinking. Stop it!) would tolerate flushing that human being down a toilet. And you're trying your damndest to make that 'flushing' a non-human event; tragically, it is not a non-human event. You require a bit more edumacation to see that the zygote (that was who you were long ago, and you were you even then at that early point in your lifetime) seeks life support. An organism that seeks life support from its environment is a unit of individual life, even at the single cell stage in a lifetime of perhaps eighty or ninty years (may God grant that you live that long and more, if you so desire). If your little exercise is designed to hang a nebulous guilt in the air regarding the embryonic individual human beings that DO on occasion end up flushed unknowingly down the toilet, let me assure you, the tragedy is real, for the human species has lost an individual unique to the whole race due to inability to achieve life support at a crucial stage in that individual's lifetime already begun. There is no condemnation in such an accident, as you ought recognize; it is sad that an individual human, being completely human at that stage in a lifetime already begun, was unable to achieve life support from its environment. PERIOD..
Thus, I have to conclude that a fetus is clearly not a human being during the first trimester. Exactly when the fetus becomes a human after the first trimester is not clear to me. Yeah, you would like for the truth to be so malleable, so negotiable, eh?

Try to reason this out: at what point, going backward from your now existence, was there not a you; at what point in the CONTINUUM that is the lifetime of pcl did the human status of pcl begin?