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FDA unleashes new threat to human babies
American Life League, Inc. ^ | Release issued 21 Nov 01

Posted on 11/22/2001 10:59:38 PM PST by toenail

FDA unleashes new threat to human babies

"In the midst of a terror campaign and a frightening battle against anthrax, the FDA has somehow been able to find the time to sanction yet another form of baby killing," said Judie Brown, president of American Life League. "The newly-approved birth control patch uses the same abortion-causing chemicals used in many other so-called contraceptives."

With its approval of the birth control patch, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has now approved its fourth new "contraceptive" option in the last year. The skin patch has been added to a collection that already includes a monthly injection, a hormone-emitting IUD, and a hormone-emitting contraceptive ring.

"All these devices deliver the same hormones to the woman's body and all work in the same manner," said Mrs. Brown. "They all affect the uterine lining and prevent implantation of a newly-conceived human being, thus causing the end of that human being's life."

"The FDA should be ashamed of itself," said Mrs. Brown. "All Americans should reject this new form of baby killing and seek to protect all innocent human life, from fertilization to natural death."

Release issued: 21 Nov 01

©2001 American Life League, Inc.


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To: All
I have seen nothing in pcl's posts that would back up the assertion that he/she/it was EVER Catholic. Did I miss something?
361 posted on 11/28/2001 10:31:16 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
Did I miss something?

I think you did. I sincerly think you did miss something and it has nothing to do with evidence of my ever having been a Catholic of not.

362 posted on 11/28/2001 10:44:14 AM PST by pcl
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To: wwjdn
My bible is the King James version published by the National Bible Press, Philadelphia. 1956 Edition. Is this a "PC" bible?

Thanks.

363 posted on 11/28/2001 11:22:42 AM PST by pcl
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To: wwjdn
I must have missed something. I don't see your point. How are we all criminals of the worse kind if we belive that ALL life is sacred?

Because you risk the lives of those around you on a daily basis for your own convenience. You can't say that "ALL life is sacred" in any kind of absolute sense and then risk the lives of your children etc without being morally culpable. It is hypocrisy to only apply the standard where convenient (e.g. unborn children) but not where it is inconvenient (e.g. born children). I don't have an argument with your fundamental position per se, I have an argument with the gross inconsistency of its application.

364 posted on 11/28/2001 1:38:04 PM PST by tortoise
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To: tortoise
How about elaborating. Would you equate not buckling your child's seatbelt with taking a preborn to an abortuary to have scissors jabbed into its skull then its brains sucked out?... Maybe I don't want to know; there's a real chance you do equate those actions!
365 posted on 11/28/2001 5:23:55 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: pcl
Hang in there. I'll either get back at 'cha (said rapidly, slurring the words together) later tonight or tomorow.....BG
366 posted on 11/28/2001 5:49:06 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: pcl
"My bible is the King James version published by the National Bible Press, Philadelphia. 1956 Edition. Is this a "PC" bible?"

The KJV is a terrible Bible, but the "PC" Bible is the "New Testament and Psalms: An Inclusive Version," by Oxford University Press.

Let us know when you find some Jewish commentary or other writing that supports your crazy theory that the jealousy trial in Numbers had anything to do with abortion. And you'll find some modern commentators who will speculate that, but see if you can't find any support for this notion during the first 2000 years of that law being established. Hop to it.

367 posted on 11/28/2001 6:08:36 PM PST by toenail
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To: toenail; pcl
pcl, would you trust me to go to a dear friend who is a practising Jew and have him give me the Hebrew "take" on your Numbers analogy? Cuz if this is what's holding us all up and we can get it cleared up that would be great. And hey, if I'm wrong, I'll publicly admit it. Now, that's gonna take a good couple of days (or more, depending on his schedule)....and someone help me out...Numbers What? I don't want to scroll through all of this to find it. Thanks.
368 posted on 11/28/2001 6:26:15 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: MHGinTN
Would you equate not buckling your child's seatbelt with taking a preborn to an abortuary to have scissors jabbed into its skull then its brains sucked out?... Maybe I don't want to know; there's a real chance you do equate those actions!

No, I don't equate those. But that still doesn't address the question. If you take a position of moral absolutism, then you WOULD be morally culpable simply for putting the kids in the car while you run errands. I am merely looking for an explanation of a morally consistent position.

How valuable is life? If you create finite metrics, then abortion could arguably be defensible. If the metric is infinite from the standpoint of morality, then each one of us is as guilty as an abortionist every time we risk someone's life for our own convenience. It isn't morally consistent to say "killing innocent people is always wrong (e.g. abortion)" AND say "risking the lives of my children for my convenience is okay". The only difference between these positions is the certainty of death and the age of the person. Moral relativism allows this to be viewed as a legitimate position, but I'm guessing that most people here (myself included) are not moral relativists. This isn't an easy question to answer, but it is a very legitimate question that should be answerable in any system of moral absolutism that isn't completely arbitrary. Nonetheless, I doubt many people have spent the time to address this sticky issue even though they really should.

369 posted on 11/28/2001 6:28:56 PM PST by tortoise
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To: MHGinTN
taking a preborn to an abortuary to have scissors jabbed into its skull then its brains sucked out?.

Was that good for you? Did you get the right little tingle when you typed those words? Can you type with one hand?

370 posted on 11/28/2001 6:29:06 PM PST by pcl
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To: pcl
You are more sick now than you were before, Sandy. Seek help.
371 posted on 11/28/2001 6:43:01 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: toenail
The KJV is a terrible Bible

What makes one bible good and another not? I had been told that the bible is the word of god. The original words came from men who were devinely inspired. All the following translations and publication of the bible were also guided by god's hand to insure their integrity.

If god's hand has not guided all translations and version of the bible, how is one to decide what is the god protected version(s)? I know the Catholics have a verification system where by good Catholics look for the imprimatur. Who do others do it?

372 posted on 11/28/2001 6:43:44 PM PST by pcl
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To: tortoise
You just said that you don't equate incidental acts (like seatbelt negligence) with abortion killing, yet you do it:

It isn't morally consistent to say "killing innocent people is always wrong (e.g. abortion)" AND say "risking the lives of my children for my convenience is okay".

You are logically inconsistent in your premises. Want to explain 'metric' to us mortals? [Are you using it in the same mode a physicists would use it to define a field equation set?]

373 posted on 11/28/2001 6:47:21 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Who is Sandy? Your ex-wife?
374 posted on 11/28/2001 6:50:18 PM PST by pcl
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To: Brad's Gramma
For every "bible expert" one can find to support the "she is not pregnant thus this is not about abortion" interpretation of Numbers one can find another "bible expert" supporting the "this is clearly about abortion" interpretation.

It is all subjective. There is no absolute right or wrong interpretation, there is only what one wishes to believe.

Quite frankly, since I do not accept that the bible is the word of god, all the interpretations are only of historical interest to me.

375 posted on 11/28/2001 7:03:07 PM PST by pcl
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To: pcl
Quite frankly, since I do not accept that the bible is the word of god, all the interpretations are only of historical interest to me.

Well now, for Pete's sake, that's downright silly. After all you've said regarding the Bible and using Numbers as such a strong argument, you now say it's only of historical interest?

376 posted on 11/28/2001 7:27:46 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: pcl
Who is Sandy? Your ex-wife? 374 posted by pcl Gosh, she's too nice a lady to be around your ilk.
377 posted on 11/28/2001 7:30:50 PM PST by MHGinTN
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To: pcl
"For every "bible expert" one can find to support the "she is not pregnant thus this is not about abortion" interpretation of Numbers one can find another "bible expert" supporting the "this is clearly about abortion" interpretation. It is all subjective. There is no absolute right or wrong interpretation, there is only what one wishes to believe. Quite frankly, since I do not accept that the bible is the word of god, all the interpretations are only of historical interest to me."

Once more: I'm an atheist and don't give a gram of spit for theological fantasies -- yours or anyone else's. For historical interest, could you find any Jewish commentator or historian or other author who, within the first 2000 years of the establishing of the jealousy trial, mentioned that the jealousy trial in Numbers had anything at all to do with abortion?

In case you don't remember, you're the one who brought this up.

378 posted on 11/28/2001 8:04:39 PM PST by toenail
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To: pcl; MHGinTN; All
Jim Robinson has a thread running, in Breaking News...go NOW!!!
379 posted on 11/28/2001 8:13:56 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: pcl
I have observed that you anti-abortionists do not treat a two week old miscarriage like a person. You flush them down the toilet. If you truely belived the two week old fetus to be a person, you would treat it like a person.

Where do you get this? Do these people know that they flushed their babies down a toilet?

380 posted on 11/28/2001 8:23:39 PM PST by independentgrrl
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