Posted on 11/22/2001 10:59:38 PM PST by toenail
If she did not want to be pregnant and did not take appropriate counter measure, yes it is a mistake.
About my God. Sorry. That is private matter. I genrally only talk about Him with like minded people. He is not a subject I wish to debate with anyone.
I still say, taking your clothes off & have sex is NOT a mistake. It's a choice. Pro-choice thing, you know.
Have you never made a mistake? Have you never made a serious mistake. I know I have made one or two.
I really want/need to understand something. When Christians share their deeply held beliefs, we're trying to cram things down others throats. When the more "enlightened" of the society share their deeply held beliefs, they're open minded, they're tolerant. Please, since you're sorta the spokesperson for this group of people, help us understand how you can be tolerant, yet we can't.
I do not understand what you are getting at. What is it about you that you want me to tolerate?
If you want me to tolerate your taking free choice away from women, it is not going to happen.
If you want me to tolerate people who will never consider abortion as an option for themselves, no problem, I already do.
Yeah, you do. You know EXACTLY what I'm saying. The typical anti-life person thinks that THEIR ideas are fine upstanding ideas. The typical anti-death person is intolerant. It happens all the time, and you know it.
If you want me to tolerate your taking free choice away from women
I know some people who ONLY went to the deathmills, aka abortion clinics, to sit there and PRAY, quietly. Well, since they're now labeled "intolerant", it's against the law for them to do that. AND AND AND if you continue talking about this free choice thing, WHY ARE YOU AFRAID OF THE LITERATURE that they want to pass on to the girls going into the clinics?
Never said I was afraid of that.
By the same token, you should be equally tolerant of someone who wants to hand out Satanic literature at your church door and sits there and quietly prays to Satan.
I just don't want you to put woman and clinic workers in jail or subject them other civil penalties for doing what they believe in.
Uhhhh.....so where'd I say THAT???? And heck, let the Satanists come on church grounds and pray. NO PROBLEM!!!! We'd probably welcome them with open arms!! I would, for one.
So, then, you'd help pass legislation that would again allow the people who want to give a girl TRUE choice by showing her literature that she's not gonna get from PP?
I have no problem with anyone offering it to her. I would have a problem if the person offering were acting in an intimidating manner. I would have a problem if someone tried to force it upon her.
As far as legislation goes, no. I would not help pass such legislation. The law already covers this type of activty. I am for smaller governement. Passing useless laws just makes life more difficult and expensive for everyone.
Now we're getting into a grey area. By WHOSE definition would this be established?
Let me ask you something real frank, and if you want to answer privately, that's ok. I can keep the dialogue going that way. Do you know of anyone, a young girl specifically, who's gone into PP for something, only to be lied to? To be deceived?
I'm gonna eat dinner, I'll be back. I want my blood sugar to level out b/4 I start sounding incoherent....
You must be confusing me with someone else. I never said any of that.
No, I only know one female that has gone into a abortion clinic.
She was 15 years old and made a childish mistake. She had an abortion. She is now in her third year at MIT. She is a straight A student. She claims she has not had sex since she became pregnant. I tend to believe her because of what I do know about her.
OK. Using that as your ONLY source for feeling the way you do (I assume), how's about if she HAD had a bad experience? Would you feel differently?
And I've been thinking about a bunch of stuff here. We've gone round & round and not gotten anywhere. First off, you said you don't want to debate your god. I said I don't want to either. I only want to know WHO he is.
You said you want smaller government, and therefore, wouldn't support legislation allowing us to hand out in a calm manner...by anyone's definition...literature to the girls going into the clinics. DO YOU SUPPORT PP's involvement in other countries?
Why is YOUR viewpoint tolerant and mine intolerant?
I led you to another thread with pictures of aborted babies.....please answer me on that one.
I had an egtopic pregnancy and almost died, I came within minutes of it as a matter of fact. There WAS no one to bury. In which category do I fall, as far as you're concerned?
Back at ya.
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