HAS ANYONE OUT THERE SEEN THIS, IS THIS A HOAX OR WHAT?

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[philman_36]

Just a cross reference link for you...
"Smart Growth" is "Agenda 21"

[PeaceBeWithYou]

Al Gore called this Sustainable Growth to counter urban sprawl. It's more akin to backdoor Socialism. It has never worked anywhere it has been tried and it usually has the exact opposite results to it's stated goal. Those that can, move out of the draconian restrictions on what you can do with your own property. Those that can't move, are trapped in the increasing population density it creates, along with higher cost of living, higher pollution, higher crime, higher taxes, etc.

They will try to tell you that if fails because it hasn't been applied properly, but the real reason is that it creates more problems than it solves, mainly because those pushing for it don't understand human nature and or the real sources of the problems they are attempting to solve.

Here's a good review on what is behind it, and what the results have been where it has been emplemented.

[philman_36]

History lesson enough for you?

[metesky]

Don't get caught in The Planners Web

[philman_36]

Isn't that just a "spiffy" site.

[metesky]

Yowza!

[CWRWinger]

"The fact is, the piece could be true."

I think it's very important whether it's true or an exaggaration. There are so many issues confronting Constitution loving activists, can't waste time on an exaggaration.

BTW, I do believe our property rights under constant assult and our 'Representatives' seemingly need constant reminder to reread the Constitution.

[D2]

The State of Michigan has been atempting to "streamline" all local zonong ordinances and "master plans" to conform to a "state model".

Read David Horowitz's account of the folks of his parent's generation and their planned utopia. It's coming ever so slowly......tick.....thick....tick

[Ken in Denver]

The Defenders of Property Rights is a very legitimate organization. I have worked as an expert witness for one of its attorneys, and I think a founder of the organization, Roger Marzulla. His wife Nancy is mentioned in the article as a reviewer of the planning document. Roger and Nancy have a law practice in Washington DC. Roger is a former high ranking member of the Reagan Justice Department. They also were formerly with the Mountain States Legal Foundation, a strong advocate of property rights and many other conservative values. If they have serious concerns here, that is a strong indication that the matter is serious.

[FITZ]

Anything done under the Clinton administration was to remove individual rights and get everything under the federal control.

[AAABEST]

What is a veryconernedamerican? Very conerned american?

Not at all. When you leave out the "c" it means "Allow me to prove I'm a dumb-ass by misspelling my nick" in lefty-speak.

[Lee'sGhost]

Bwahahahahahhaahaha! Good one.

[brityank]

The Guidebook is essentially a collection of model enabling statutes (with commentary) that state legislatures would adopt to authorize planning, land development controls, regulations, procedural processes; everything states and local governments might need for – in the authors' words – "planning and the management of change." The statutes would be new requirements placed on state agencies and local governments to make often-significant changes in their ordinances and policies.

In other words, boilerplate.

The advent of the computer age allowed many great things -- and many nefarious things too. Boilerplate is one of those things that can have either effect. In this case, the watermelons have learned that grass-roots opposition will attend any program they try to invoke via the legislative process, so they focus their sights on the bureaucracies that support the legislators, and give them the innocuous seeming boilerplate to flesh out their proposals.

Since federal acts have more visibility, (relatively), than the various state acts, placing the same or similar boilerplate in the states acts eventually accomplishes the same deed with little or no opposition. The bigger the bureaucracy within the governments, the easier it is to get the insertion. Everyone is overworked and on deadline.

It all boils down to lack of oversight and appropriate monitoring by those we charge with upholding and maintaining our way of life -- the US Congress. Congress has repeatedly shirked it's duties; sold out to the fat-cat contributors of all stripes, and usurped the rights of Citizens all in the pursuit of self-aggrandizement, pork-laden self promotion; and totally ignored the fact that their only purpose is to safeguard all of the Citizens of all of the States, and not just the watermelon lobbyists and self-promoters that abound inside the Beltway.

[brityank]

Another 'piece of the puzzle' information bump.

[verity]

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[Freedom'sWorthIt]

Thank you for that link - bookmarked. I am in a "smart growth" planners nasty nest. Cary-Raleigh area of NC. It is all downhill from here unless God - and alert voters - get active very soon. I doubt it will happen - out of a population of 100,000 - we had 10,000 voters turn out in the most recent Cary council race - won by an "urban planner"....sponsored by the Sierra Club.

[MadameAxe]

Agenda 21.