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To: D J White
Actually, I went back and looked closely at the document. It has two parts. One part outlines the "great principles (self-government and the right of the people to abolish a government when it becomes destructive of the ends for which it wa established). The other expresses South Carolina's disapproval of the manner in which northern anti-slavery was manifested itself. I divided the document up between the two portions. 2 and 1/2 of the document addresses state sovereignty and self-deternmination (1306 words). One and 1/2 pages address South Carolina's opposition to northern anti-slavery (880 words). The closest the document comes to approving of slavery is when it mentions that northern anti-slavery types have "denounced as sinful the institution of slavery."

Just like Satan used the bible wrongly to tempt believers, the Southern states use the Constitution wrongly to promote their wish to continue slavery. They were making the case for slavery. Most of the Declaration of Secession deals with slavery. If the Southern states were upset at the way the North was treating everything in a Constitutional manner, they wouldn't have singled out one issue to such an extent.

I agree, but how the country does this is critical.

100 years was enough. It was time to get radical.

Northern extremists were more than willing to violate the constitution in their efforts to end the institution.

Because the South wasn't following the principles of the Constitution in the Preamble.

Southerners had had enough. If you take control of the Federal government and you are willing to violate the constitution, our rights are no longer safe in the hands of the Federal government, so we are leaving the Union to you.

Our rights are no longer safe when an entire region ignores the principles of the Constitution to the point that they say one human has a right to own another based solely on the circumstances of their birth.

I am vehemently anti-abortion, but I believe that Rudolph's tactics bring extreme discredit on the pro-life movement. If I knew where he was, I would call the police immediately because he undermines my beliefs.

In this case maybe you're playing smart. What's worse though, killing someone before they murder again or not doing anything to prevent the murders? I would never attack an abortion doctor or clinic because I know that's not the answer and God is in control of our nation's destiny as long as we try to live His ways, but it is a very close call as far as principle goes.

Let's examine the implications of this position. The extremination of the Jews by the Nazis was right just because they had the power to do it?

Several times in Israel's and Judah's history God used an outside people for correction. The USA will have Jacob's trouble in the future for correction. What was the exact purpose in the holocaust era? I don't know. Maybe it was correction. Maybe it was a sacrifice for the rest of us as to the evil of man and the victims will be rewarded greatly just as the First century saints were sacrificed brutally and now no doubt will be greatly rewarded. We've had 50 years of relative peace since WW2 opened America's eyes.

Osama probably believes that the "success" of the attack on the WTC and the Pentagon was achieved because God favored it.

If Osama would study the bible he would see that the bible discusses these terrorist attacks and says the terrorists are going to be chastised in the hereafter for their crimes. Want for truth will lead people to God's word. Those who are attracted to writings other than God's don't really want truth.

You shouldn't presume to speak for the Almighty.

No but I can read the bible and relate what it says the best I can. Who are you going to believe, the bible, or a work that doesn't show any signs of super-intelligence?

I don't know why some things happen, but I do not take the fact that they occured as a sign of Divine favor.

Maybe not all the time. But God does get involved and we are His people. If His people are still united, I'd say there is a good chance God wanted it that way.

329 posted on 12/31/2001 8:58:41 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: #3Fan
Maybe not all the time. But God does get involved and we are His people. If His people are still united, I'd say there is a good chance God wanted it that way.

Well, with all due respect, I thank God that there aren't too many people out there who agree with you and are willing to violently violate the Constitution in their efforts to achieve their agendas. The world would be worse off for it.

Respectfully,

D J White

336 posted on 01/06/2002 5:27:29 AM PST by D J White
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