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To: #3Fan
"See how much support would you get"

There are now 30 Representatives and Senators (including mine) who would vote for secession in the SC Legislature. And I hope that you would support it too since northerns still hold the South in disdain.

IMO, secession appears to be a natural political move for both the north and the South. Line up the issues, the South is noticeably more conservative and rightwing than the north.

You guys up north love your gays, abortion, big government, unions, high taxes, gun contol, etc. Now why would you want to be associated with those who don't love the things you do? Just think of the enormous strides in moving a 'progressive' society 'forward' if you weren't emcumbered by Southern values?

101 posted on 11/26/2001 1:24:19 AM PST by CWRWinger
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To: CWRWinger
There are now 30 Representatives and Senators (including mine) who would vote for secession in the SC Legislature.

Assuming that your figure is correct that means 17.6% of the legislature supports secession. Is that enough to take the state into rebellion again? Have any polls been done to determine what percentage of the population supports secession? If you decided to pull an 1860 again would you put it to a popular refendum this time or would you just take it out of the Union without public input again? If you did hold a referendum what percentage would be enough to secede? Would a simple majority be enough to secede? A super majority? Less than half?

104 posted on 11/26/2001 1:38:21 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: CWRWinger
well said.
121 posted on 11/26/2001 8:02:29 AM PST by stand watie
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To: CWRWinger
There are now 30 Representatives and Senators (including mine) who would vote for secession in the SC Legislature. And I hope that you would support it too since northerns still hold the South in disdain.

The only Southerners that I hold in disdain are the slaveowners of 1860 that caused secession, who were a small percentage of the Southern population. They're all dead now.

IMO, secession appears to be a natural political move for both the north and the South. Line up the issues, the South is noticeably more conservative and rightwing than the north.

Well then you haven't looked at the issue very close then. The division in this country is between rural and urban, not North and South. The only reason the Northern states went Dem is because we have bigger cities. As your cities get bigger, your states will swing liberal also.

You guys up north love your gays, abortion, big government, unions, high taxes, gun contol, etc.

Our city dwellers do. Your city dwellers do too.

Now why would you want to be associated with those who don't love the things you do? Just think of the enormous strides in moving a 'progressive' society 'forward' if you weren't emcumbered by Southern values?

They are rural values. Look at the county by county map. If anything the North is more conservative than the South because the South had two swaths going through even rural areas that went for Gore. All of our rural areas went conservative.

128 posted on 11/26/2001 10:06:22 AM PST by #3Fan
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To: CWRWinger
Now why would you want to be associated with those who don't love the things you do?

They don't want to be associated with us. They want to inflict their way of doing things on us so that we share in their misery. Socialst redistribution and command and control governments made the northeast states the economic hell holes that they are, so they want to screw up life in the south too.

135 posted on 11/26/2001 10:24:53 AM PST by from occupied ga
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