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To: billbears
As bad as life for a black may have been in those states and as unfairly as they were treated, life and treatment were far worse in the Slaveocracy. Thus, they were desperate to escape so the Yankees could mistreat them.

Keep trying to make the North look as bad as the Slaveocracy it is really funny to watch the floundering around you do trying to find an argument which has a chance to stand up against a man who knows history and historical lies.

59 posted on 11/21/2001 12:37:38 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
against a man who knows history and historical lies.

Yassa, you know so much. Thank you for coming down heah and saving us and burning down our homes and such. Thank you for freeing the slaves the second you came down. Wait a minute. You didn't free anybody did you? Wait a minute, slavery was still allowed in northern occupied territories of the South because Mr. lincoln thought it would be unconstitutional to free slaves in the United StateS. But if he thought it would be unconstitutional to do that, why what would he have done if the South had not seceded? Let's see from his own words

Apprehension seems to exist among the people of the Southern States that by the accession of a Republican Administration their property and their peace and personal security are to be endangered. There has never been any reasonable cause for such apprehension. Indeed, the most ample evidence to the contrary has all the while existed and been open to their inspection. It is found in nearly all the published speeches of him who now addresses you. I do but quote from one of those speeches when I declare that—

I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

Those who nominated and elected me did so with full knowledge that I had made this and many similar declarations and had never recanted them; and more than this, they placed in the platform for my acceptance, and as a law to themselves and to me, the clear and emphatic resolution which I now read:

Resolved, That the maintenance inviolate of the rights of the States, and especially the right of each State to order and control its own domestic institutions according to its own judgment exclusively, is essential to that balance of power on which the perfection and endurance of our political fabric depend; and we denounce the lawless invasion by armed force of the soil of any State or Territory, no matter what pretext, as among the gravest of crimes.

I now reiterate these sentiments, and in doing so I only press upon the public attention the most conclusive evidence of which the case is susceptible that the property, peace, and security of no section are to be in any wise endangered by the now incoming Administration. I add, too, that all the protection which, consistently with the Constitution and the laws, can be given will be cheerfully given to all the States when lawfully demanded, for whatever cause—as cheerfully to one section as to another.

Hmmmm... he said this in 1861 before the War, only a month before the War. Guess he wasn't so all fired up to free the slaves then, what caused him to have a change of heart? Well in 1862(and I shouldn't have to point this out to a what was it in your words, a MAN WHO KNOWS HISTORY AND HISTORICAL LIES), the north had begun to lose interest in the war. Believe it or not, if you would bother to read the papers of the time, the northern editors that lincoln hadn't shut down began to rail against the war. British(remember the country the United StateS seceded from?) and French papers were reporting the abuses lincoln was effecting. So lincoln, himself who was quoted that he didn't want to be painted with the 'abolitionist brush'(his own words, but you knew that didn't you?) gained support for the abolitionists to continue the war

Now this shouldn't be hard for even you to understand. Look at the Emancipation Proclamation. LOOK AT IT!! The document was released on Sept 22, 1862 and only went into effect if the Southern stateS did not return to the union. Basically, slavery would still be constitutional and accepted by lincoln. That's not a lie, that is exactly how the document reads. If it was over slavery, could you tell me, exactly why lincoln would allow the South back into the Union with slavery still intact?

But you're a smart man, you figure it out

63 posted on 11/21/2001 2:45:23 PM PST by billbears
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