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To: justshutupandtakeit
"No one I know claims the North fought because of slavery but to put down the treasonous insurrection that would have destroyed the Union"

So, your position is that the Southern states did not have the legal authority to seceed?

I suggest you read the New Hampshire or Texas state constitutions. Both states clearly retained the right to seceed. There are other examples.

154 posted on 11/26/2001 8:36:58 AM PST by Triple
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To: Triple
Of course they had no right to secede. State constitutions have no relevence in the question.

Texas is a bit of a special case since it had a seperate existence as a sovereign nation something none of the other states ever had. Even the states of Virginia, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, and Georgia had no right to secede since the Union was created to be perpetual. There are arguments for their right to secede which are based on false premises and historical untruths. These are refuted on every one of these idiotic threads but the Defenders of Slaveocracy never allow logic and truth to stand in the way of their lies.

The other states rebelling were created by the U.S. buying their territory from other nations and thus, had even less pretensions to the right to secede.

Just see what Andy Jackson thought about this "right" or Madison.

173 posted on 11/26/2001 11:48:47 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit
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To: Triple
Here is a link to the Texas Constitution adopted in 1845 and in force in 1860. I don't see where they retained the right of secession.
187 posted on 11/26/2001 2:06:13 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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