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To: Ronin
I'd say that Americans are quite good at ignoring the elephant in our own living room...just as good as the world's Muslims.
For one example, anyone here care to be judged for the Kosovo bombing?
Yea, clinton did it, but he didn't represent MY views and beliefs.
He didn't represent what this country is supposed to be all about.
And he killed a LOT of innocent people to advance his personal agenda.
Just like the 9/11 terrorists did.
Of course, to someone who thinks like all to many on this thread, it would be ok to punish me for HIS actions.
After all, it was "murderous Christians" that did it. I live in a Christian country, my ability to vote makes him even more my
responsibility, so does that make it ok to kill me, my family, my friends and my fellow citizens in payment for his bombing spree?
The Taliban think so.
So do a lot of people here on this thread -as long as it's the other guy.
That reasoning gives the radical Muslims the justification they need.
It would also justify hatred of Americans by the Germans, the Japanese, and people from a variety of places around the world
(unless the fact that we "won" or were "morally justified" makes their dead not matter as much...and so they need to get over it).
Dealing with a threat is one thing. Even hating those who did it.
Hating an entire race or religion for the actions of a few is quite another.
Hating Americans and killing thousands of civilians on 9/11 -supposedly for actions of our country around the world- is WRONG.
Hating and condemning all Muslims for the actions of some is JUST as wrong.
Sure, deal with the problem: "leaders" that manipulate their people to advance their personal agendas.
Sometimes that requires war and innocent people DO die.
But it doesn't require blaming and hating all the people that live in that country, or all of that religion or race.
Hearing calls to "nuke'em all" from "peace-loving" Christians because "we're justified" is exactly the mindset of the Taliban.
And it's at least as hypocritical.
Indulging in a frenzy of hate is as wrong for us as it is for them.
It isn't worthy of an American.
It certainly isn't worthy of a FReeper.

Please thank your friend for her time and trouble.
Once again we get to see that real people are not the same as politicians.
Not all buy into the propaganda.
239 posted on 11/21/2001 12:04:53 PM PST by freefly
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To: freefly
How very touchy-feely of you. Now please ask Ronin and his Islamic friend to comment on the thousands of civilian lives taken on 9/11. Mind you, they didn't have the stones to attack someone who could actually fight back. Nope, they hijacked airplanes full of unarmed citizens (thank you, Sarah Brady) and flew them into buildings full of equally unarmed citizens. Forgive me if I now lack sympathy if citizens get hit in the current conflict. We did not ask for this fight, and I don't think any of us wanted it. However, we've got it now, and I don't care how many of "them" we take out. Maybe next time they'll think twice before attacking innocent civilians in the U.S.
245 posted on 11/21/2001 2:04:17 PM PST by MizSterious
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