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To: Quix
It seems to me your argument ASSUMES that there is NO Ultimate Authority; NO perfect law; NO Ultimate standard of morality, no Ultimate Accountability.

That is really the guts of the whole argument isn`t it? You believe in the ultimate authority of God. I respect that and I have absolutely no problem with it. I on the other hand am unsure. Just as you believe in the absolute authority of God, many people don`t believe in God. They believe that when you die you return to non-existence, game over. I also respect their right to believe that, it is their choice. I think that you may well be correct, and if so, on my judgement day, I will have a lot to answer for. Many people believe that they will not experience judgement day. Do you respect that?

690 posted on 11/19/2001 10:07:43 PM PST by Slapper
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To: Slapper
OF COURSE I respect their right to believe in No God or eternal life.

GOD HIMSELF gave that right. IT IS A NECESSARY RIGHT TO AFFORD THE OPTION OF TRUE LOVE IN RELATIONSHIPS. If the choice for NONLOVE is not there, then there's no possibility of Love. But the choice for nonLove, AWAY FROM PERFECTION AND HIS WAYS has to have REAL CONSEQUENCES. The choice AWAY FROM LIFE is a choice TOWARD DEATH. Not a lot of options on that score.

RESPECTING A PERSON's choice about God does NOT mean I think a society based on lawlessness, evil, selfishness, extreme independence etc. is one I'd like to live and try to raise kids in. . . . I can think of a lot of saner options.

692 posted on 11/19/2001 10:13:12 PM PST by Quix
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To: Slapper
Slapper, You said it well.

It does not matter how I believe for it is my choice. However, if someone believes differently from me, and most people do, it is their God given right to have those beliefs and I wasn't put on this earth to JUDGE them for their beliefs, unless they are LEFTISTS, then darn right, I'll blast them. :-)

694 posted on 11/19/2001 10:20:57 PM PST by Gracey
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