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To: Verax
I don't know what to say...I could never betray the protection of innocent human life for political gamesmanship...I have a 2 year old son, and I would feel as though I were betraying him and defiling the miracle of his birth.

Say, I'd advise you to go to visit the young black, brown, and white girls who are pregnant - and let them know you will adopt their babies (if they don't get an abortion) - or that you will support them and guide them, so that their children will become productive adults, just as you do with your own precious son.

Then I'll listen to your values that you wish for everyone else to follow. How many person lives have you touched of young pregnant girls? Please tell me you will visit the pregnancy clinics as soon as possible.

666 posted on 11/19/2001 8:55:59 PM PST by Gracey
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To: Gracey
then i will listen to your values

these are not verax's values -- these are god's laws that have become verax's values. i think that you will find that christians as a whole have more compassion for the downtrodden and spend more of the time and money helping them than other segments of society.

did you know that your posting was '666'. coincidence???

671 posted on 11/19/2001 9:01:41 PM PST by mlocher
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To: Gracey
I hope your not suggesting that it's better to murder children who would be raised in one-parent families, or in poverty, or under ANY OTHER DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCE!

I happen to be a child who was adopted from a negleted home along with my sister when I was nine years old...I know all about it.

By the way, what would be your suggestion for putting a stop to life's other myseries? Say, spousal abuse or illiteracy, or disease etc.

And yes...I understand that it's important to do more than just talk.

674 posted on 11/19/2001 9:06:34 PM PST by Verax
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To: Gracey
Say, I'd advise you to go to visit the young black, brown, and white girls who are pregnant - and let them know you will adopt their babies (if they don't get an abortion) - or that you will support them and guide them, so that their children will become productive adults, just as you do with your own precious son.

The problem with that argument is that has nothing to do with the real issue, which is the MURDER of children. It is in fact a hostage threat. Adopt them or we'll continue to MURDER them.

682 posted on 11/19/2001 9:31:16 PM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Gracey
Say, I'd advise you to go to visit the young black, brown, and white girls who are pregnant - and let them know you will adopt their babies (if they don't get an abortion) - or that you will support them and guide them, so that their children will become productive adults, just as you do with your own precious son.

Then I'll listen to your values that you wish for everyone else to follow. How many person lives have you touched of young pregnant girls? Please tell me you will visit the pregnancy clinics as soon as possible.

UUHHHH, ARE YOU REALLY TRYING TO SAY that the thousands, ?millions? of adoptions, large foster homes etc. for such children on the part of Christians are a myth? Do you really think that Gloria Steinam and Shrillery et al are KINDER, MORE CHARITABLE, MORE CARING, GIVE MORE FOOD, SHELTER, CLOTHES AND AFFECTION to unwanted children than do genuine Christian believers?

Are you REALLY TRYING TO SAY that a partial birth abortion wherein a tool destroys the brain of the partially born child in a modern infantacide is a MORE loving, thoughtful, caring thing to do? Are your sure your curlers haven't short circuited?

And what kind of society, world would you REALLY like to live in? One where inconvenient, 51% unwanted human beings were killed, murdered without choice on their part? . . . you will likely be such some day, if the world lasts that long. You might want to choose your answer well.

686 posted on 11/19/2001 9:53:51 PM PST by Quix
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To: Gracey
PERHAPS I made an error.

Perhaps you were defending as honorable, charitable, caring and thoughtful Shrillery et al's treatment of the unborn and partially born like used toilet paper as a great thing for society. . . . maybe I misconstrued your point somehow. . . .

Do you also plan on opening A MODEST PROPOSAL restaurant?

687 posted on 11/19/2001 9:57:50 PM PST by Quix
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