[Pistias]

All of us desire moral order. All of us wish for justice. The chief problem that faces a civilization is how to translate morality and justice into a workable system of law.

Evil people don't want the moral order, nor do they want justice--unless they think it is in their interest. I thought the chief problem that faces a civilization is how to get people to love goodness and justice even when it conflicts with their perceived interests, or to educate them to the true value of goodness and justice.

[walden]

I'm not sure people can be educated to the value of goodness and justice prior to having experienced it. In fact, that's exactly how all of us got civilized-- we lived under the system of our parents' goodness and justice until we were of an age to understand the reason behind it. So, what do we do with adults? Pretty much the same thing, I think.