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DNA IN THE USA: PATRIOT ACT ALLOWS FORMATION OF DATABASE
Drudge ^ | 10/18/01 | Drudge

Posted on 11/18/2001 3:00:46 PM PST by michaelje

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1 posted on 11/18/2001 3:00:47 PM PST by michaelje
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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX SUNDAY NOV 18 2001 19:25:37 ET XXXXX

DNA IN THE USA: PATRIOT ACT ALLOWS FORMATION OF DATABASE

The United States will soon begin construction on a giant database containing DNA codes of criminal offenders.

Buried in the USA Patriot Act -- signed into law by President Bush last month -- is a provision that allows for the government collection of a person's DNA for "qualifying Federal offenses, as determined by the Attorney General."

The DNA development has gone unreported in the nation's mainpress.

Section 503 of the Patriot Act now requires persons convicted of terrorism offenses and other crimes of violence to submit to DNA samples.

"The [DNA] database will be a powerful new tool for law enforcement and crime prevention," an administration official told the DRUDGE REPORT last week.

Under prior law, the statutory provisions governing the collection of DNA samples from federal offenders have been restrictive.

A 30-page Field Guidance of New Authorities issued by the Justice Department states the "collection of DNA samples from federal offenders" extends "to all federal offenders convicted of the types of offenses that are likely to be committed by terrorists or any crime of violence."

Specifics on the deployment of the database could not be obtained as this transmits.

Developing...

----------------------------------------------------------- Filed by Matt Drudge Reports are moved when circumstances warrant http://www.drudgereport.com for updates (c)DRUDGE REPORT 2001

2 posted on 11/18/2001 3:07:22 PM PST by michaelje
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To: michaelje
This is no big deal. Some states, like New York already require convicts to give up a sample of blood for DNA database purposes.
3 posted on 11/18/2001 3:10:19 PM PST by mass55th
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To: michaelje
oh no! tyranny! tyranny! the government's out to get us! < /sarcasm >
4 posted on 11/18/2001 3:12:16 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: michaelje
I have the document on my hard drive...it states:


SEC. 503. DNA IDENTIFICATION OF TERRORISTS AND OTHER VIOLENT OFFENDERS.

Section 3(d)(2) of the DNA Analysis Backlog Elimination Act of 2000 (42 U.S.C. 14135a(d)(2)) is amended to read as follows:

`(2) In addition to the offenses described in paragraph (1), the following offenses shall be treated for purposes of this section as qualifying Federal offenses, as determined by the Attorney General:

`(A) Any offense listed in section 2332b(g)(5)(B) of title 18, United States Code.

`(B) Any crime of violence (as defined in section 16 of title 18, United States Code).

`(C) Any attempt or conspiracy to commit any of the above offenses.'.


5 posted on 11/18/2001 3:12:47 PM PST by Brian Mosely
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To: mass55th
This is no big deal. Some states, like New York already require convicts to give up a sample of blood for DNA database purposes.

Yup...I don't like the fact that anyone's doing it, but it's nothing new.
6 posted on 11/18/2001 3:13:12 PM PST by July 4th
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To: mass55th
I was hoping for something more juicy.
8 posted on 11/18/2001 3:18:54 PM PST by michaelje
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
It just does not set a good precedent.
9 posted on 11/18/2001 3:20:33 PM PST by michaelje
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To: michaelje
Big Brother is going to get us all. Sure this is OK now, until we get a really liberal president like Hillary who will use this, and the new eavesdropping on enemies, and reading of emails, and searching of our homes against us...
10 posted on 11/18/2001 3:21:09 PM PST by buffyt
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To: michaelje
I am in the greatest support of the president and all the efforts underway to stop terrorism and to defeat those enemies of our nation from within and without. I have spent my professional career as a USAF pilot and would not hesitate when called upon, especially by this Commander-In-Chief, however I do not like this DNA database one bit.

I am already cataloged and do not at all like it. By the claim of determining my remains in the case of an aircraft crash I have been DNA printed. I have no say in the matter. My unique genetic code is locked up somewhere in Virginia and I have no knowledge of where, no idea what will happen to its record when I get out of the military and apparently no say in the matter either.

I have no faith whatsoever that it will be given back to me with no record of it kept by the government. As a matter of fact, I am willing to believe that it will become part of this "database" devised under the "Patriot" bill and am sickened by it.

It IS a matter of great privacy and information ripe for serious and irreparable abuse. Mistaken ID's are bad enough, one mistake with this data and I could all of a sudden be a "Criminal" of the federal government and the public would automatically believe my guilt, after all, I am a DNA match.

I am greatly trusting of our form of government, but very distrusting of the intentions of many people in it. I see this slipping slope from which one step into we will not recover from. It will evolve into all felony offenses, then all state level crimes, then all offenses aside from being pulled over for going too fast or illegal parking. All those who cherish the RIGHT to a gun will soon have to provide a sample for their "Protection". Right. Protection from who and what???

I see it as a very bad idea going in a direction we will only wish we did not go.

I am willing to hear arguments against my reasons, but remember, you shred my individual right to privacy and security when for any reason I have to submit to you so as to NOT be considered a bad guy, because in the end I believe that this is where it will go, Born day one, blood sample for tests and DNA sample, and social security card number. Or you don't leave with the states newest citizen.

11 posted on 11/18/2001 3:22:11 PM PST by ICE-FLYER
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To: buffyt
:sigh: I can't wait
12 posted on 11/18/2001 3:22:13 PM PST by Lady_Marmalade
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To: sidney
"That doesn't mean its not a big deal."

Read the article...it says "containing DNA codes of criminal offenders," not ordinary citizens. Don't get your pants in an uproar!

13 posted on 11/18/2001 3:23:35 PM PST by mass55th
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To: michaelje
1. Hillary will NEVER be president.

2. Don't be a criminal and you won't be on this list.

14 posted on 11/18/2001 3:27:01 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: mass55th
Read the article...it says "containing DNA codes of criminal offenders," not ordinary citizens. Don't get your pants in an uproar!

And the income tax was only 3% when it started too. I don't want to even come off as condescending but you must admit that many a good intentioned program has been blown out of proportion in our government. Many times over I have seen the Police State of New York encroach upon its citizens with laws that only ever become more and more restrictive.

I would love it if before I die that I meet a president who says "Let me tell you about the laws I want to do away with or return to their original boundaries."

15 posted on 11/18/2001 3:27:21 PM PST by ICE-FLYER
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To: ICE-FLYER
Interesting .
16 posted on 11/18/2001 3:27:32 PM PST by michaelje
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
"Don't be a criminal and you won't be on this list."

That kind of mentality will get you in to BIG trouble. Hasn't history taught you so already ?

18 posted on 11/18/2001 3:34:33 PM PST by michaelje
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To: alpowolf; Imperial Warrior
bump
19 posted on 11/18/2001 3:37:58 PM PST by michaelje
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