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Taliban Offer Conditional Surrender
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 11/18/01

Posted on 11/18/2001 8:58:55 AM PST by 11th Earl of Mar

Taliban offer conditional surrender

November 18, 2001

BY ELLEN KNICKMEYER ASSOCIATED PRESS

BANGI, Afghanistan -- Defenders of the last Taliban stronghold in northern Afghanistan made a conditional offer of surrender Sunday after a day of devastating U.S. airstrikes, the opposition northern alliance said.

U.S. B-52s led a day of intense bombing on Taliban positions outside the city of Kunduz, sending huge fireballs skyward. On Sunday evening, an opposition commander said the Taliban had offered to give up provided there was a guarantee of safety for foreign fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden.

Refugees fleeing the city of Kunduz over the weekend, meanwhile, told of terror at the hands of Taliban troops and bin Laden loyalists. One described a doctor shot and killed for not treating a wounded Taliban fast enough, and others said eight teen-age boys were killed for laughing at Taliban soldiers.

Witnesses also said at least 100 Taliban soldiers were shot, apparently by gunmen from their own side, as they approached northern alliance lines in an attempt to surrender.

The conditional surrender offer was reported by an opposition commander, Nahidullah, who said it was made during negotiations conducted by radio with the Taliban. The Taliban said they would surrender if the alliance guaranteed that non-Afghans fighting alongside them would not be killed and if the surrender were witnessed by United Nations representatives.

There are an estimated 3,000 non-Afghans fighting with the Taliban in Kunduz, including Arabs believed to be affiliated with bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network as well as Pakistanis.

There was no immediate word whether the opposition alliance has accepted the offer.

Elsewhere in Afghanistan, a private news agency said U.S. bombardment of Taliban positions in their home base of Kandahar in the south and outside the eastern city of Jalalabad had killed more than 70 people overnight. The reports could not be independently confirmed.

The latest American bombardment of Taliban lines outside Kunduz used the largest bombs yet unleashed in the area. Flames shot into the air, and cracking booms echoed across the valley floor toward the northern alliance's own foxholes in opposing ridges. Avalanches of soil cascaded down the targeted hillsides.

Taliban soldiers could be seen running out on the distant ridges, trying to find cover.

Northern alliance forces had moved a multiple-rocket launcher and two tanks up to the road that is the eastern approach to Kunduz, but there was no sign an attack was imminent.

Refugees fleeing Kunduz over the past several days have said the city is under the control of Arab, Pakistani, Chechen and other foreign fighters--and a hard core of Taliban fighters from Kandahar.

In and near Bangi, a village about 30 miles east of Kunduz, refugees gave chilling accounts of conditions inside the city.

The Taliban were barring people from leaving, telling them, "If you leave the USA will bomb all the city," said a refugee named Dar Zardad. He said he made it out of the city only after Taliban beat him with their rifle butts.

Zardad described the killing in Kunduz of a group of boys in their late teens by Taliban from Kandahar after some of the youths laughed at them. He and others also recounted how troops shot and killed a doctor when he delayed responding to their summons to come treat wounded Taliban fighters.

Refugees said people of the city were hiding indoors and closing their shops for fear of summary execution by the Taliban. Foreign fighters, using local translators, were broadcasting loudspeaker announcements saying they would be taking the offensive against northern alliance troops laying siege to the city.

The reports of bombings in eastern Nangarhar province and in Kandahar came from the Afghan Islamic Press. It said the Nangarhar raid killed 30 people, and quoted a Pakistani official at the nearby Torkham border crossing as saying seven wounded were brought to Pakistan for treatment.

It also said U.S. jets struck targets around Kandahar, killing 46 people, as the stalemate continued over control of the Taliban stronghold.

In the capital, Kabul, U.N. envoy Francesc Vendrell was trying to help work out a plan for a new Afghan government. The former president, Burhanuddin Rabbani, returned to Kabul on Saturday for the first time in five years.

Rabbani has never relinquished his claim to the presidency, though he has acknowledged the international calls for a broad-based government that would include all of Afghanistan's ethnic groups.

A White House official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Saturday that the United States has been pressuring the northern alliance to share power with other factions and to let the United Nations oversee assembly of a new government. U.S. officials are in the region and in direct contact with the alliance, he said.

Vendrell said he had a preliminary meeting with Rabbani's acting foreign minister, Abdullah, on Sunday. He described the exchange as "cordial" but said no outstanding issues were resolved.

Copyright 2001 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.


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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Hey, I'm all for some negotiations. I say we counter offer with another day of B-52 bombings and see what they come back with.
21 posted on 11/18/2001 9:29:24 AM PST by stilts
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Taliban had offered to give up provided there was a guarantee of safety for foreign fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden.

Bwahahaha. Allah must be running out of virgins.

22 posted on 11/18/2001 9:31:30 AM PST by VRWC For Truth
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Napalm the bastards!
23 posted on 11/18/2001 9:32:08 AM PST by Bob Evans
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Conditions? We don't need no steenking conditions!
24 posted on 11/18/2001 9:33:06 AM PST by MistrX
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
On Sunday evening, an opposition commander said the Taliban had offered to give up provided there was a guarantee of safety for foreign fighters loyal to Osama bin Laden.

Reports from two days ago stated that the foreign fighters were executing Afghani Taliban fighters who wanted to surrender.

This "offer" does not come from the Afghani "Taliban". It comes from the foreign Al Qaeda fighters who are militarily superior to the Afghani Taliban and who know that the Northern Alliance will give them no quarter.

The Northern Alliance has already stated it's position. If they surrender, the Afghani Taliban will be given quarter and the foreigners will be killed. If they do not surrender, both the Afghani Taliban and the foreigners will be killed.

There is only one way that the Al Qaeda foreigners will come out of this : Dead.

25 posted on 11/18/2001 9:34:14 AM PST by Polybius
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If this War is to be one, such foreign fighters must be the first ones to stand before military courts and every one who killed in the name of Jihad should die for their cause just like they say they wish to do
26 posted on 11/18/2001 9:34:31 AM PST by AmericanVictory
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To: Diogenesis
Wonder if they are playing " Smoke Get's In Your Eyes"?
27 posted on 11/18/2001 9:38:11 AM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Where are all those fine Islamic Jihad martyrs who welcome death?
28 posted on 11/18/2001 9:39:52 AM PST by dennisw
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If they let them go in any form or fashion they'll have to fight them and their offspring again. Absolutely NOT. Kill them all. Seems cruel, but only a fool would let people of that mindset live to cause an even worse problem later.

If it were me and you let me go, I'd make SURE you paid the next time. It wouldn't be just the WTC. It would be poison in the water, foot-and-mouth in the cattle, anthrax sprayed everywhere, smallpox on your children, and bridges blown all simultaneously and without ANY warning. Now, if I can think of that, can't they?


29 posted on 11/18/2001 9:40:41 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Forget about it. These bastards brought this on. It's over when we say it's over. Kill all of them.
30 posted on 11/18/2001 9:40:42 AM PST by Hillary 666
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To: AmericanVictory
If this War is to be won, such foreign fighters must be the first ones to stand before military courts ...

Not a single foreign fighter now fighting in Afghanistan will ever be tried before a U.S. military court.

Dead bodies tend to get rather ripe and stink up the courtroom after a couple of days. It is best just to bury them in a common grave.

31 posted on 11/18/2001 9:44:10 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Hillary 666
No negotiations, no surrender terms. They had their chance. Now it is the sword.
32 posted on 11/18/2001 9:45:39 AM PST by SurferDoc
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
NO QUARTER!

33 posted on 11/18/2001 9:47:21 AM PST by Syncro
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Never! Just nuke the terrorist savages!
34 posted on 11/18/2001 9:47:21 AM PST by Standing Wolf
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"It also said U.S. jets struck targets around Kandahar, killing 46 people, as the stalemate continued over control of the Taliban stronghold."

No doubt all children holding big eyed bunny rabbits in their arms.

35 posted on 11/18/2001 9:48:41 AM PST by blam
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Taliban offer conditional surrender

Part of me says (after Lawrence of Arabia):

NO PRISONERS!!!!!

The more-Christian part of me says:
1. Imprisonment up to life, depending on judgement of U.S. Military Tribunal, completed in
five years (that should help Senator Leahy to quit obsessing about the anthrax letter
that didn't reach him and get his Dead-Head @ss in gear and SIMPLY LET THE SENATE
VOTE ON NEW BUSH APPOINTEES TO THE JUDICIARY.

2. Mandatory trips AND tours of the USA by selected families of the accussed to see that
we are NOT the GREAT SATAN.
Especially to talk with moderate Muslims in the USA and let them know that only a VERY FEW
incidents of reprisals happened here...
even when over 5,000 NON-combatants were murdered on 9-11.

Just my humble opinion....
36 posted on 11/18/2001 9:51:02 AM PST by VOA
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
told of terror at the hands of Taliban troops and bin Laden loyalists. One described a doctor shot and killed for not treating a wounded Taliban fast enough, and others said eight teen-age boys were killed for laughing at Taliban soldiers. Witnesses also said at least 100 Taliban soldiers were shot, apparently by gunmen from their own side, as they approached northern alliance lines in an attempt to surrender.


37 posted on 11/18/2001 9:51:15 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Kill all the 'foreigners' there are be prepared to kill them in the streets of your home town. You decide.
38 posted on 11/18/2001 9:51:51 AM PST by blam
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To: RummyChick
I think the average fighter who was backing the Taliban did not understand our capabilities or our resolve. They didn't have television. Didn't really know the U.S or the military capabilities. They probably thought we were another Russia that would put in troops that they could kill. They didn't expect hell fire from the sky :-)

More likely they believed that allah was really on their side, no real God would approve of the Taliban's deplorable tactics.

39 posted on 11/18/2001 9:57:00 AM PST by TightSqueeze
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To: jrlc
In the South, we celebrate BombAllDem.
40 posted on 11/18/2001 9:58:51 AM PST by AppyPappy
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