[Jeff Head]

Talk about a "mark of the beast"!

I will refuse to take such a vaccine. I will not use the innocent blood of babies to prolong my life. To do so, would mark me, it would say something about my moral fiber, my morality, my humanity and the state of my soul that I will NEVER consciously allow to be said. I would rather die first.

If that makes me a religious zealot, or an extremeist ... so be it.

In war, when attacking the enemy, some innocents get killed. There are some who will try and equate this to what is being discussed here. There is no equivalence. To kill innocents in the name of research is akin to what the Nazi's and every other Godless despot does. Lives spent that way are on the head of the society that allows for and benefits from said research.

To have civilians accidently killed in war is part of the horrendous cost of defeating a protaganist and those life's are on the head of the protaganist.

To defeat entire people's in an all-out war, where the population is willing supporting the war effort (like in Germany or Japan in World War II). Is part of the horror of all out, unrestricted war. Again ... no equivalence to this madness discussed here.

... and again, I would refuse, on pain of death, to take such a vaccine.

Each must decide for themselves.

[deport]

The decision is personal as you state. There are other non fetal sources available if they will use them and make the vaccine for those that prefer a non fetal type.

In the U.S. today the following vaccines are fetal derived with no other source available:

• Chickenpox
• Rubella
• Hepatitis-A

[walden]

I assure you, I would never tolerate any government that would force you to take a lifesaving shot over your moral objections. Go with God.

[joanie-f]

Thanks for the heads-up, Jeff.

It seems to me that there are two glaringly premeditated (to us right wing radical conspiracy theorists, at least) things going on here:

• We are being programmed to believe that there is some amazing benefit to be derived from using stem-cell lines from aborted fetuses to manufacture a new smallpox vaccine, when there are other historically-proven methods of obtaining such a vaccine. (As opposed to valid scientific theory, the stench of covert leftist political machinations fills the air....)

• We are being programmed to accept the fact that there may very likely come a day (and relatively soon, methinks) when the government may, for the common good, be forced, in the name of a health emergency (whether real or fabricated), to invoke emergency powers in order to herd us (cattle-like) into holding facilities so as to protect us (from invoking our God-given freedom of choice). Being vaccinated against one's will for the common good has a nice ring to it (if one is not averse to swallowing leftist self- and agenda-serving pablum). But those of us who would prefer to hang onto our God-given, Constitutionally-protected liberties do not intend to allow Big Brother to either (1) tell us that the process by which a substance is derived is not morally reprehensible, when our conscience and our religious beliefs veritably scream otherwise, and (2) force us, against our will, to have injected into our bodies a substance which was obtained by a morally reprehensible process (and -- even that significant concern aside -- a substance that we might not freely choose to avail ourselves of, for many other personal, health-related reasons as well).

I (sadly, but of necessity) second Arthalion's astute observation: My guns will have better range than their needles.