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To: HAL9000
They had a detonation device in their hands and dared their attackers to hand-to-hand combat. As the northern alliance troops attacked, the Arabs detonated the booby-traps, killing themselves and their assailants, Haq said.

Don't these guys understand that is what guns are for. Don't get close enough to get killed. When challenged to hand to hand combat say, "Here, combat this!", and blow him away.

I am beginning to doubt the fiercenesss of these fighters. There basic tactic is to hide and ambush the enemy or conduct terrorists attacks on unarmed innocents. Even suicide attacks aren't courageous, they are just misguided idiots who are looking for a reward. Courage is being afraid and doing something anyway. These suicide bombers aren't afraid, they are selfishly seeking their gain in "Paradise". It seems that they are the main ones saying they are fierce, and the media of course.

5 posted on 11/17/2001 10:40:55 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
You have to wonder just how useful an Afgani passport is these days. I would guess the answer is "not very", but it does have use as kindling to start a fire in those cold mountain camps.
6 posted on 11/17/2001 10:45:41 AM PST by lafroste
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
I am beginning to doubt the fiercenesss of these fighters. Their basic tactic is to hide and ambush the enemy or conduct terrorists attacks on unarmed innocents.

Lost the link but a month or so ago, there was a terrific FR historical post on just this subject. Muslims have never been able to get it together for any length of time. They've done fine with hit and run raids and terror but have never been able to create the type of organized and long term strategy which the west has mustered against them.

11 posted on 11/17/2001 11:43:44 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Don't these guys understand that is what guns are for.

Common sense is in short supply across the entire world, as are really hardened combat trained troops.

Alot could be learned from WWII Pacific campaign soldiers who survived. If this story is correct, the real tragedy, is that events such as this will mean that no surrender will be allowed. The tragedy is not in the loss of life of the Bin Laden associates, but in the loss of potential intelligence gainded during interrigation of live prisoners.

13 posted on 11/17/2001 12:06:00 PM PST by Robert357
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