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Government Intelligence Monitoring Conspiracy Sites
Alternative News ^ | 17 November 2001 | n/a

Posted on 11/17/2001 4:25:48 AM PST by RDSmith

Government Intelligence Monitoring Conspiracy Sites.

In the weeks since the attack on the World Trade Center, government agents have been monitoring so-called "conspiracy theories" on the internet. Intelligence agents and other concerned public agencies have been alarmed by the appearance of websites spreading what George Bush recently referred to as "outrageous conspiracy theories."

Conspiracy theories have been rampant in the wake of the terrorist attacks on America. A small sampling of those theories reveals blame being placed on everyone from the Mossad and Russian intelligence, to rogue elements within the U.S. government. Such "theories" have had a rather unpleasant knack for spreading into the larger community, a problem which has clearly concerned America's highest officials.

FEMA recently felt obliged to discredit what it called "rumors" on the internet that FEMA officials were dispatched to New York City on the night of September 10. While that particular rumor did appear on many conspiracy sites, many of the site operators themselves were quick to discredit the rumor, dismissing it as a mere “mental typo” by a FEMA representative (the rumor was based on an interview in which a FEMA representative claimed that FEMA was dispatched to New York on the night of September 10). Richard Finnegan of Counter-Propaganda (http://members.shaw.ca/revelation18/news.htm), a website that features "alternative" news and conspiracy theories, said that what he found interesting about that particular denial was not the denial itself, but that it indicated that the government was paying close attention to conspiracy theories on the web. "What is even more amazing," said Finnegan, "is that George Bush felt obliged to attack these conspiracy theories during his speech to the United Nations." During that speech George Bush said, "Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th, malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists themselves, away from the guilty."

Finnegan, whose site reports some of the "more credible" conspiracy theories, rejected Bush's assertion that conspiracy theories "attempt to shift blame." "We live in a world where information is tightly controlled and where propaganda or 'public relations' is rampant," Finnegan said. "In this environment it is difficult to know what the truth is.” “When people are convinced they are being lied to they will attempt to find or create alternative solutions themselves." “There is nothing wrong or 'dangerous' about this." "Many of the greatest scandals in history began as 'conspiracy theories' which later turned out to be true." "We should not be concerned about the existence or appearance of conspiracy theories, but we should be very concerned if they disappear or are 'snuffed out,' because this would be an indication of either absolute state control or that people have ceased to be interested in determining the truth; in either case it would be the death of democracy as we know it."

Finnegan noted that the fact that government is willing to put so much interest and attention into "debunking" these theories should tell us something very useful. "I think the fact that George Bush is concerned by these theories is very interesting." "Some of the most persistent conspiracy theories these days are related to the very real fact that the Bush family has business ties with the bin Laden family; I think George is concerned, with good reason, that the general public might start discussing his connections with the bin Laden's more openly and actively ... that would be a disaster for his personal agenda." “This is an excellent example of the service provided by conspiracy theorists and other alternative news sources; they delve into areas the mainstream press is reluctant or unwilling to look into.”

Asked how actively he thought government was in monitoring conspiracy sites, Finnegan said that many sites that track traffic on their webpages have reported government snooping. "I have similar tracking on my webpage, which has recorded various hits from U.S. and other government agencies, including military intelligence." "While many of the conspiracy theorists make a big deal out of such hits, I do not pay much attention to them ... nine times out of ten a hit from a government server is probably just from some public employee surfing on his lunch-break; nevertheless, the fact that the government has been openly attacking conspiracy theories is indicative of a real concern ... it could be that they are concerned that some of these so-called "kooks" might ask questions or open doors that they would rather remain closed." "Let's remember that it was the National Enquirer, a paper that frequently reports conspiracy theories, that broke the Pardongate scandal." “Conspiracy theorists were all over this story even before the National Enquirer brought it to the attention of the nation.” "Conspiracy theorists provide a valuable service to all democratic societies, and I think we should regard any attempt to silence these individuals -- directly or indirectly -- as a direct assault on democracy."


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1 posted on 11/17/2001 4:25:48 AM PST by RDSmith
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To: RDSmith
So far as I can see it, nobody did a better job of debunking the conspiracy theories than the Islamists themselves. Within hours of the attacks, they were:
  1. Calling to congratulate each other.
  2. Telling America to learn its lesson.
  3. Dancing in the streets and passing out candy.
  4. Spinning "Jewish" conspiracies.
  5. Claiming they didn't do it, but they approved.
  6. Gathering up their clan to leave the United States.
  7. Threatening U.S. Allies not to get involved.
  8. Demanding that we show them proof (as a means to destroy intelligence sources).
  9. Care to continue the list?

2 posted on 11/17/2001 4:36:22 AM PST by Rubber Duckie
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To: Rubber Duckie
Bull's-eye!
3 posted on 11/17/2001 4:38:25 AM PST by Elenya
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To: RDSmith
Hmmm . . . I wonder if GWB is also trashing Mel Gibson, who starred in a recent decent movie called (what else ) "Conspiracy Theory" !!!
4 posted on 11/17/2001 4:41:58 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: RDSmith
"Conspiracy theorists provide a valuable service to all democratic societies, and I think we should regard any attempt to silence these individuals -- directly or indirectly -- as a direct assault on democracy."

BUMP!!

5 posted on 11/17/2001 4:51:35 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: GeekDejure
Considering the rich vein of material they could have mined, that movie sucked out loud!!

Mostly, I have a problem with that Julia chick!

6 posted on 11/17/2001 4:55:01 AM PST by Nitro
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To: RDSmith
Does this author always take things out of context like this?
7 posted on 11/17/2001 4:55:11 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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FEMA recently felt obliged to discredit what it called "rumors" on the internet

Isn't it nice to have a Ministry of Truth? I feel much safer now.

8 posted on 11/17/2001 4:57:01 AM PST by Zviadist
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To: RDSmith
Government/Intelligence? Don't they repel each other?
9 posted on 11/17/2001 4:59:18 AM PST by DainBramage
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To: Nitro
Is it the shape of her mouth or her acting?
10 posted on 11/17/2001 5:02:25 AM PST by oceanperch
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To: Zviadist
Is this a consiracy Theory or is it just a bunch of "KOOKS" (Virginia Taxpayers Association)? United Nations Plans New Form of Government for United States
11 posted on 11/17/2001 5:05:42 AM PST by It'salmosttolate
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To: RDSmith
They'd need a whole office building of snoopers to "monitor" this place!
12 posted on 11/17/2001 5:06:13 AM PST by DB
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Government Intelligence Monitoring Conspiracy Sites

Is this supposed to be news? Like this just started.
13 posted on 11/17/2001 5:08:16 AM PST by pops88
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To: oceanperch
Is it the shape of her mouth or her acting?

Ohhh . . . is that what that is? . . . her mouth? . . . geez, I kinda figured it was a newly discovered fault line !!! :-))

14 posted on 11/17/2001 5:08:46 AM PST by GeekDejure
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To: RDSmith
In a time of war it can be dangerous to military operations and to US troops for the government to reveal information, so it restricts information. Once this happens "the people" become highly vulnerable to both deliberate and innocent misinformation. Misinformation gets passed on and the cottage industry of conspiracy theorists becomes the "best information" available. In wartime the opposition exploits these conspiracy theories and turns the people against the government.

Message to Americans: Speak factually about what you KNOW to be true. Label your opinions as OPINION. When you do not know for certain, say so. Accuracy matters. Words can have consequences. Support the war with TRUTH.

15 posted on 11/17/2001 5:13:35 AM PST by NetValue
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To: RDSmith
Hope they are monitering The Independant Media Center (the clearing house for information on the riots in Seattle, Calgary and Genoa). Every conspiracy theory imaginable has been posted there. As well as threats that Bin Ladin has a nuclear device already in America which will be set off by sleeper agents via cell phone should OBL be killed or captured.
16 posted on 11/17/2001 5:18:33 AM PST by LarryLied
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To: oceanperch
Both and more!
17 posted on 11/17/2001 5:19:53 AM PST by Nitro
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To: GeekDejure
Well you know that Mel is from Australia.....
20 posted on 11/17/2001 5:42:43 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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