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Second Senate Anthrax Letter Found; Addressed to Leahy
CBS News | 11/16/01 | Dan Rather

Posted on 11/16/2001 2:47:44 PM PST by John H K

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To: Spirit Of Truth
Bump.
162 posted on 11/18/2001 1:39:46 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Spirit Of Truth
You were warned.

You were not willing to accept or understand that your posting puts FR in serious legal jeopardy. You continue to put FR at risk so you can play your little games. After haveing displayed that selfishness or lack of ability to engage in logial thought process, and with no proof even remotely admissable in court of law or court of logic, you ask us to agree with your "reasoning."

There is usually some reaon in reasoning.....

163 posted on 11/18/2001 3:02:29 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: Spirit Of Truth
You are not some crusading angel, sent by God to know who is an enemy and who is not. In reality, you are closing in on the point where you could be a danger to yourself or others.

In addition, you do not, or worse, will not understand the legal jeopardy you create for FR.

Please get professional help. People have probably told you to get help in the past. They were right. Take copy of your posts and those of others asking you to be rational and legal. Do it right away. FR will be here when you come back.

165 posted on 11/18/2001 4:15:42 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: Timesink
Leahy is such a jerk beyond the pale, I wouldn't be surprised if it were a Democratic Senator that sent it to him. Or if he sent it to himself to get some attention.

Yes, just the way, as freepers say, Planned Parenthood sent hundreds of anthrax threats to itself? Get a grip, man. Such knee-jerk partisan explanations are nothing short of desperate.

167 posted on 11/18/2001 5:49:53 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: MindBender26
Spirit of Truth is not putting free republic in any kind of legal jeopardy; s/he is only displaying the far right wing of the site that is rampant here every time I visit. I'm not a right winger, and I'm constantly amazed by what I see here, but SOT is only doing what these "Republican" (though not) Confederates have been doing for some recent years. They do it to women, they do it to Democrat senators, they did it to blacks, they do it to gays, or to whomever they please. It is ignorance, but it's not breaking the law.

It is entirely possible that some rightwing fanatic is sending the anthrax letters, and more probably the anthrax threats. Because this person or people could be a rightwing crazy should not send the people in this forum into a tizzy unless they, themselves, feel deeply that they too have become too fanatical. If they don't feel that way, they should not worry--they have nothing to worry about! If they rise up with conspiracy theories like the ones purporting Margaret Sanger to be a Nazi or some such thing, then yes, they should have something to worry about; at least this would provide a situation in which people can reexamine themselves and their beliefs (and perhaps the extent of their participation on a politically fanatical message board).

For the Rush Limbaugh/religious rightwingers, feelings of superiority are over. Division is passe. It's going to get more difficult now. History demands more in the way of personal examination and responsibility, something beyond simple blame, and something more in the light of what the individual owes fellow human beings--not just a go-to-church, general responsibility, but a specific one.

168 posted on 11/18/2001 6:14:48 PM PST by eaglebeak
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Comment #170 Removed by Moderator

To: eaglebeak
Yes, just the way, as freepers say, Planned Parenthood sent hundreds of anthrax threats to itself? Get a grip, man. Such knee-jerk partisan explanations are nothing short of desperate.

I was being sarcastic.

Apparantly I'll have to put a big graphic disclaimer to that effect on such posts next time

171 posted on 11/18/2001 10:32:46 PM PST by Timesink
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To: eaglebeak
The following is a direct quote from Spirit of Truth's post #7.

As I have been pointing out here in Free Republic for some time now, a possible key suspect in the Anthrax mailings is an Iraqi-American microbiologist who lives in Trenton, New Jersey (at last notice), where the Anthrax mailings eminated from. His name, or at least his alias, is "Waly Samar". In 1993, Mr. Samar (I'm pretty sure that at least the last name is legitimate) was studying microbiology at Hunter College in NYC - less than a thousand feet from the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital where Kathy Nguyen worked - - the latest victim of inhalation Anthrax. Waly Samar operated integrally with the Iraqi intelligence agents Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ramzi Yousef in planning, coordinating and executing the World Trade Center bombing on February 26th, 1993, the second anniversary of Kuwait's liberation from Iraqi occupation."

Those two phrases (in just the first paragraph!) that get into trouble are, #1 "As I have been pointing out here in Free Republic for some time now, a possible key suspect in the Anthrax mailings is an Iraqi-American microbiologist who lives in Trenton, New Jersey (at last notice), where the Anthrax mailings eminated from. His name, or at least his alias, is "Waly Samar". and #2 " Waly Samar operated integrally with the Iraqi intelligence agents Abdul Rahman Yasin and Ramzi Yousef in planning, coordinating and executing the World Trade Center bombing on February 26th, 1993.

The second phrase is actually much worse. It is libel, per se. In this sentence, SOT says Samar was in integral part of the "planning, coordination and executing" of a crime which six people died. As for any absolute truth defense, Samar's lawyers would call FBI agents, etc., and simply ask them if Mr. Samar had even been charged, let along convicted of those crimes. The answer, of course is no, and there goes any chance of an absolute truth defense. Remember, truth as a defense in this case must be "absolute truth," not just 99% true. As far as malice, that's easy too. SOT runs a strong Christian website. It's an easy jump from that to anti-Islamic.

The first phrase, "As I have been pointing out here in Free Republic for some time now, a possible key suspect in the Anthrax mailings is an Iraqi-American microbiologist who lives in Trenton, New Jersey (at last notice), where the Anthrax mailings eminated from. His name, or at least his alias, is "Waly Samar". In 1993, Mr. Samar (I'm pretty sure that at least the last name is legitimate) was studying microbiology at Hunter College in NYC - less than a thousand feet from the Manhattan Eye, Ear and Throat Hospital where Kathy Nguyen worked - - the latest victim of inhalation Anthrax," is equally problematic, for another reason. The word "possible" in his first sentence saves him from a libel action, but opens the door wide for a "false light" action. Definition of "false light" is hard in a sentence, but generally it is a "statement or other content (could be video for example) taken as a whole, which tends to lower the perception of the allegedly injured party in the eyes of the community." In other words, even calling him a potential suspect, possible having an alias and living close to victim Nguyen, is designed to cast suspicion on him, and SOT can not in court prove Samar committed and crime.

The problem for FR is, in making a vehicle available for the distribution of said comments, it becomes SOT's "publisher, and therefore very liable too.

The verdicts in these cases can run into telephone numbers!

It's not a case of Right Wing (of which I am), Left Wing, Center or even far-out reaches of any political philosophy. It's simply not engaging in conduct that could cost FR lots of money, even if in legal fees alone. FR was begun to spread the truth ignored by the mainstream media. It's a pity that a person who allies himself with "Truth" can't (or won't) stop puttiing FR into legal jeopardy.

172 posted on 11/19/2001 3:44:57 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Last word?

Unfortunately, the last word may be had by Mr. Samar's lawyers in his litigation against FR and all JR has worked so hard to build.

174 posted on 11/20/2001 6:00:59 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: meridia
Whadda buncha slow pokes.

It's probably wise to go slow...not enough federal judges, you know.

175 posted on 11/20/2001 6:03:44 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Timesink
Is it known for certain the letter was recently discovered? [as opposed to being recently released to the media]
176 posted on 11/20/2001 6:09:14 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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