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MORON ALERT: FOGLEMAN URGERS LOWER STANDARDS FOR MEMPHIS CITY SCHOOLS
The Commercial Appeal aka Comic Appeal ^ | 11/16/01 | Aimee Edmondson

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:04 PM PST by GailA

Fogelman urges lower standard for city schools

By Aimee Edmondson edmondson@gomemphis.com

State school board member Avron Fogelman of Memphis said Thursday he will propose that the board set up lower performance standards for Memphis schools than the rest of Tennessee.

He believes you just can't compare an urban district plagued with poverty to other school districts in the state.

After seeing the latest round of school report cards released by the state this week, Fogelman predicted that up to 70 percent of students will not graduate because they will fail the tougher Gateway tests required for graduation starting this year.

He wants to make it easier for students to pass that test.

"It's like a runaway freight train that will hit us in Memphis if somebody doesn't call time out," Fogelman said. "As it's going now, they're not going to have a prayer."

Fogelman said he'll make a motion at the next state Board of Education meeting Feb. 1 to create a separate set of requirements.

Currently the state's performance standard for schools is the 50th national percentile on achievement tests. That means that students should perform as well or better than 50 percent of students across the nation.

Fogelman wants Memphis's standard to be the 40th percentile. Right now, a 40 is an F on the state report card.

Fogelman knows he faces an uphill battle in persuading his colleagues on the state board to buy into his plan.

He brought up the idea briefly in September after the state identified its low-performing schools in jeopardy of a state takeover. Two thirds of those, 64, are in Memphis.

At the time, board members and education commissioner Faye Taylor argued against a separate set of standards for the state's largest city.

Cherrie Holden is the other local member of the state board of education.

"I don't understand how we can set a separate standard and expect all children to achieve the same," Holden said. "Other districts will say, 'If they get a break, we all should get a break.' "

However, Memphis Supt. Johnnie B. Watson likes Fogelman's idea. "I'm all for accountability," Watson said. "But the time has come that we need to stop letting half-baked testing determine what we teach and how we teach. It's controlling the school system."

Watson wants to see a scale created that takes poverty into account when looking at a school's test score data. So it wouldn't just be for Memphis. If other districts are this poor, they have the same weighted scale, he pointed out.

About 70 percent of Memphis students qualify for free or reduced-priced meals, a common indicator of poverty - and student achievement.

Only 13 percent of students in Shelby County Schools do so. The county historically logs much higher test scores in general than the city.

And that is a huge source of frustration for city school teachers and administrators, who brace themselves for the annual parade of D's and F's published in the newspaper.

"We must do something to let this community know that Shelby County and Memphis cannot be compared," Watson said.

The relation of poverty to student achievement has been widely debated for years.

Sociologist James S. Coleman sparked a national debate with his 1966 study concluding that the differences in student achievement had more to do with home life and family wealth than what goes on in the schoolhouse.

Watson also pointed to the ACT test scores, which are used to identify schools for the low performing list starting this year, along with other criteria.

A large number of Memphis' 118,000 students don't have college in their sights, so teachers shouldn't have to spend time preparing them for it. "(We) have to prepare them for the world of work after graduation," Watson said.

Memphis scored a D on the ACT portion of the report card, averaging a score of 17 systemwide. The state and national average is 20. Shelby County scored a 21.2 systemwide.

Fogelman and Memphis educators also are fretting over the new Gateway exit exams, which students starting with this year's freshmen must pass before graduation.

The Gateway tests, consisting of separate algebra I, English II and biology tests, present a much higher bar than the current eighth-grade level competency test students must pass to graduate.

According to this year's report card, 45 percent of Memphis freshman passed that test, giving the city an F.In the county, that number is 77 percent, or a B.

- Aimee Edmondson: 529-2773


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To: Logophile
I am 53, we had usually 30-35 kids per class, we were NOT by any means well off. Just above poverty. Lived in the burbs of Hammond Ind. My parents DID NOT take an active roll in my education, beyond providing the materials I needed to perform in school. My parents had a 5th & 6th grade education. They made it VERY PLAIN it was MY responsibility to LEARN what the teachers taught. By the time I was in the 8th grade I read at the 12th grade level. Math was my weakest area. I graduated in the middle of my class in HS from an INNER CITY school that had a student population from all over Hammond, Ind. Hammond Technical Vocational HS. We were a very diverse lot, no child was treated differently because of their skin color or lack of wealth.

Abe Lincoln had only a couple of years of formal school and managed to self educate himself into being a lawyer.

21 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:07 PM PST by GailA
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To: All-American Medic
Yes Memphis is in Shelby County - but the school systems are separate.
22 posted on 11/16/2001 6:02:40 PM PST by garbanzo
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To: garbanzo
Businesses or prospective employees looking to locate in Memphis or Shelby County should seriously consider the education system before seeking a to locate here after this Highly educated MORON wants to decrease the already LOW standards for Memphis schools. Better yet send your kids to private school or home school them.

There is NOTHING wrong with the kids, if you don't expect much of them, they will be happy to accomidate you and not produce much.

23 posted on 11/17/2001 4:58:25 AM PST by GailA
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To: GailA
However, Memphis Supt. Johnnie B. Watson likes Fogelman's idea. "I'm all for accountability," Watson said. "But the time has come that we need to stop letting half-baked testing determine what we teach and how we teach. It's controlling the school system."

I agree with that statement at least. Accountability should be accountability to the locally elected school board, not the state department of education. In my state the "state" department of education gets 93% of its funds from the FEDERAL government.

Accountabiltiy yes, but to the local people, not the feds. Will some schools water down their standards below what you and/or the people in the Beltway like? Sure, but they're NOT your kids! Will local control of schools be a panacea that will solve all problems? No, but neither will all the grandiose testing schemes cooked up be the power-hungry educrats. Local control will at least ensure a community gets the schools it deserves.

24 posted on 11/17/2001 5:14:02 AM PST by Ahban
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To: GailA
Fogelman wants Memphis's standard to be the 40th percentile. Right now, a 40 is an F on the state report card.
Well, isn't it refreshing to see that the state school board members hold such high goals for the education of the students. [/sarcasm]
I now understand why everyone I know who lives in Memphis, actually live outside of Memphis.
25 posted on 11/17/2001 5:24:43 AM PST by callisto
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