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Some Thoughts On The Present Tyranny
League of the South ^ | 11/16/01 | Dr. Michael Hill

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:57 PM PST by shuckmaster

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Aw, Shucks!


1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:58 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: mdittmar; TwoBit; WhowasGustavusFox; winin2000; aomagrat; sheltonmac; billbears; bluecollarman...
ping
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:58 PM PST by shuckmaster
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To: shuckmaster
bump!
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:04 PM PST by TomServo
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To: shuckmaster
..one thing is beyond doubt, and that is the imperial regime in Washington has taken advantage of the situation to assume powers that the Founders never intended for it to possess. Incrementalism has been cast aside for a headlong rush toward the Police State. If we open our eyes we can see our beloved republic fade into tyranny just as Germany did into the Nazi era.

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:05 PM PST by Boonie Rat
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To: shuckmaster
As usual another excellent post shuck. Unfortunately, we will be called those dang America haters. 'Don't remember the Founders. Don't remember the Constitution and the moral men who wrote it. They could never imagine a situation such as this. The Constitution is a living and breathing document.' BS. The reason that they could not imagine such a situation is because they never planned that the United StateS(and not America, my country is not the name of a continent) would become such an empire as the British Empire the Founders broke away from 226 years ago
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:05 PM PST by billbears
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To: shuckmaster
Sic Semper Tyrannis

Sorry,I'm not with this.

I believe this was originally a call for vengance against Lincoln.

Can't agree with that,but thanks for the ping.

6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:05 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: shuckmaster
Nifty! I'm an Ohioan, but I was born in N.C and lived substantial portion of my life in Texas. Does that make me a Southerner, or do I have to petition somewhere to get membership :)

Joking aside, this person is correct that the powers that be in D.C. are assuming roles that they are not entitled to assume, under the pretext of war, which has not been formally declared by Congress.

Law and Order types need to stop sniffing the ink of the Legalist and start paying attention. Their chants of "law and order" mean nothing as the law is now officially an @ss.

Either Congress needs to declare war, now, or these powers that the monsters on the Hill are assuming are invalid and illegal. Heck, even in time of war most (but not all) of the things they are doing now would be illegal and un Constitutional. Without that declaration, they are plain criminal.

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:05 PM PST by Lumberjack
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To: shuckmaster
Freedom is over. The CDC, FEMA and national ID card will end it all..
9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:07 PM PST by mbb bill
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To: shuckmaster
To the author, and fellow handwringers....

Move to where you have no ties to bind... be free as the wind blows... go buy and island... start a revolution... create your own tyrany or anarchy, whichever best suits you... or just post on the internet.

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:10 PM PST by Godfollow
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To: Lumberjack
Since you were born in North Carolina, you're a citizen of that state no matter where you reside unless you renounce that citizenship. Therefore, you're one of us. From your post, you're obviously a Southerner. Good to cyber-meet you.
14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:10 PM PST by Twodees
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To: tex-oma
Yes this can indeed work. The Constitution doesn't forbid states their power of nullification of laws made in defiance of constitutional restraints on Congress. And yes, this has worked before. Kentucky and Virginia declared the Alien and Sedition Acts null within their borders. As a result, the provisions of those acts weren't enforced and they were ultimately rescinded.
15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:11 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Godfollow
Why don't you just shut up? If you can't even frame a coherent sentence, you have no business trying to give advice to anyone. Try reading the Constitution sometime, if you can manage it.
16 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:12 PM PST by Twodees
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To: Godfollow
Kinda dark in there where your head is, isn't it?

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:12 PM PST by Boonie Rat
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To: Godfollow
To the author, and fellow handwringers....

So let's see. If all comes to pass that is requested by the FedGov, and there is no sign that anything will be thwarted, the following items will transpire or are already authorized to transpire.

National ID cards.

Secret searches of private residences without notifying the occupent of the premisis to be searched.

Judges being forced by law to rubber stamp any request for a warrant that the police demand.

Indiscriminant blanket wiretapping without a warrant.

Internet tracking of individuals without a warrant.

Secret courts where the defense is not allowed to see the evidence against the accused.

The A.G. being able to declare any person or group as "terrorist" without the slightest shred of evidence, thus erasing that person/groups rights to a trial by jury or even a trial.

Face scanning cameras on every street corner.

Individuals being declared as terrorists for questioning the authority of government (check out the FBI pamphlet which was released in Arizona and quickly covered up detailing that "super patriots", aka most people on this site, are suspected "terrorists" for speaking out against the government or citing the Constitution).

Congress being given bills to pass without being given the details of the bill (see Ron Paul's complaint on this issue), and expected to rubber stamp the legislation.

And don't even get me started about the nice little designs the Feds are trying to push on the local State govs, in the form of plans to confiscate private property, commandeer Nurses and Doctors and force relocation to stadiums to receive mandatory, untested and potentially dangerous immunizations.

And this is only the start. But yeah, sure, we're handwringers. Either Congress needs to officially declare war and get on with its business or we need to seriously evaluate what is going on in this nation and not turn a "non critical" cheek to these actions just because we happen to like the current occupent of the Oval Office.


18 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:13 PM PST by Lumberjack
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To: Twodees
Uh-huh...

I was born in New Jersey, but raised in Florida (since I was two).

I went to FSU, located in Tallahassee, FL, the only Southern capital not to fall to the invaders in the War of Northern Aggression.

I have always considered myself Yankee by birth, Southerner by the Grace of G-d.

Just don't shoot me...

19 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:17 PM PST by Crusher138
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To: tex-oma
Well it did work, once. Back with the Alien and Sedition Acts around 1800 when Jefferson petitioned the state of Virginia to condemn it. That's the only time I can remember. But of course we know what happened the last time the states tried to exercise their constitutional right under the 10th Amendment
20 posted on 11/16/2001 1:23:17 PM PST by billbears
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