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To: rellimpank
also, we've done something with it better than erecting temples in which "volunteers" got their hearts cut out while alive--

At least two of my grandfathers were killed by Indians, but I try to go easy on American treatment of the continent's natives. We had our troubles; were no more or less "moral" than the Indians regardering "murder."

3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:08 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
I beg to differ slightly. We were somewhat more moral and didn't set out initially to kill them. They forced our hand by constantly attacking the settlers. Of course, they were here first.

This article is well worth reading - long but it's from Lion Gardiner's journal (my 8th great grandfather is mentioned several times in it):

Exerpts from Lion Gardiner's Journal

Mostly what the Englishmen did was in self defense, but they had to fight or be killed to the last man. A tiny snippet from the above link:

"Then three days after the fight came Waiandance, next brother to the old Sachem of Long Island, and having been recommended to me by Maj. Gibbons, he came to know if we were angry with all Indians. I answered No, but only with such as had killed Englishmen."

The above account will not be found in modern history books and it is similar to what we are now being forced to do in Afghanistan as one who plows through the entire exerpt will conclude. That's pretty much how it really was in those days.

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:00 PM PST by Aliska
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To: truth_seeker
At least two of my grandfathers were killed by Indians, but I try to go easy on American treatment of the continent's natives. We had our troubles; were no more or less "moral" than the Indians regardering "murder."

Thats mighty white of you! I love America...its the greatest country anyone ever stole!

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:02 PM PST by Enemy Of The State
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