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To: Loopy
The posibility of this actually being an accident is not what most of the tinfoil commandos want to hear. Their minds are already made up so don't confuse them with facts...

The latest I have seen is that the grafite composite and alloy structure above the attach points (considered non-critical structure) has failed.

Nothing more, nothing less. A bomb would have caused a much different wreckage than what we are seeing, especially the vertical stabilizer.

Some form of separation has occured between the G-composite and the metal alloy conjoined with it.

The Airbus is a radical new design and they more than likely are beginning to show their weaknesses.

The vertical stabilizer failing caused the aircraft to become so unstable that the airframe literally shook itself apart. Another error is when the Copilot went to full power with both engines which compounded the problem.......

333 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:37 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The Airbus is a radical new design and they more than likely are beginning to show their weaknesses.

Did you see these NTSB photos?

Good grief!  It's time to ground any Airbuses with composite stabs.

340 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:39 PM PST by Incorrigible
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
You are right, but you will convince no one here. When PIC went to full throttle, engines probably responded somewhat asymetrically, causing thrust imbalance, compounding problem

S/MEL COMM/INST 2200 hrs, inc .5 in Airship America!!!

343 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:39 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
The posibility of this actually being an accident is not what most of the tinfoil commandos want to hear. Their minds are already made up so don't confuse them with facts...

Grow up, you cliche' freak. Facts are what I and others WANT to hear, not some preprocessed theory about how the plane "shook itself apart."

The latest I have seen is that the grafite composite and alloy structure above the attach points (considered non-critical structure) has failed.

Wrong. It came apart cleanly at the attach points.

Nothing more, nothing less. A bomb would have caused a much different wreckage than what we are seeing, especially the vertical stabilizer.

Depends on where the bomb was, genius. Also, ruling out a bomb doesn't mean you've ruled out sabotage.

Some form of separation has occured between the G-composite and the metal alloy conjoined with it.

Meaningless gobbledygook.

The Airbus is a radical new design and they more than likely are beginning to show their weaknesses.

This is an outright lie. The Airbus has been around for thirty friggin' years and it's considered a safe aircraft. What's so "radical" about the design??

The vertical stabilizer failing caused the aircraft to become so unstable that the airframe literally shook itself apart. Another error is when the Copilot went to full power with both engines which compounded the problem.......

Oh, CRAP. Even I know that losing a vertical stabilizer, while absolutely not a good thing, doesn't necessarily cause a plane to "shake itself apart."

You lost every ounce of credibility with me when you tried to push a theory that the Fl. 587 engines had deployed reverse thrust on take-off. Lose your stupid tinfoil hat cliches and leave this thread to someone who knows what he's talking about.

354 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:50 PM PST by Map Kernow
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