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Schools OK Ramadan Prayers
New York Post ^ | November 15, 2001 | By CARL CAMPANILE

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:47 PM PST by NJ Freeper

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:02:16 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

November 15, 2001 -- Muslim students will be permitted to pray in school during the holy period of Ramadan - with restrictions, Schools Chancellor Harold Levy's office said. The prayers can't disrupt classes or impinge on the rights of other students, said Levy spokeswoman Margie Feinberg.


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Personally, I find nothing wrong with this but the hypocrittcal double standard is ridiculous.

Could you imagine public schools doing this for christians?

I mean christmas has been virtually wiped out from public schools. I say what's good for the goose is good for the gander.

Hey, do you think this opens the flood gates for prayer in school?

1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:47 PM PST by NJ Freeper
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To: NJ Freeper
Well let's test it. Christmas is acom'in.
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:49 PM PST by Digger
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To: NJ Freeper
oh great, God is being replaced by allah already,
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:55 PM PST by KQQL
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To: NJ Freeper
Where's the ACLU on this?
4 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:56 PM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: NJ Freeper
Could you imagine public schools doing this for Christians?

No, I could never image such consideration for Christians, ever.

5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:57 PM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: NJ Freeper
Makes sense to me.... Muslims crash planes into American citizens' offices, murder them, and we turn around and make special allowances for the Muslim religion in our schools. Sure. Prove to them that the more tantrums they throw, the more we'll make special provisions for their special needs.

Ahhh diversity!

< /sarcasm >

6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:58 PM PST by Humidston
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To: Jack Wilson
Where's the ACLU on this?

I don't think that the Anti-Christian Lawyers Union will have a problem with this. At least not until a Christian asks to be accomodated.

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:02 PM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: NJ Freeper
Wonderful. We allow the Terrorist Muslims to "pray" in public schools but Christians are persecuted and arrested for even mentioning His name in a whisper! It's no surprise that God has dropped his aura of protection from our nation!
8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:04 PM PST by alyssa_conservative
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To: NJ Freeper
Muslim students will be permitted to pray in school during the holy period of Ramadan - with restrictions, Schools Chancellor Harold Levy's office said.

This is the same school system that kicked the Boy Scouts out recently.  Apparently as long as you're exotic, or strange, or weird you're ok.  Otherwise, there's no room for you -- or your beliefs.

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9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:05 PM PST by JCG
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To: NJ Freeper
See also:

Schools Harass Christians, Coddle Other Faiths

by David A.Yeagley
FrontPageMagazine.com
June 21, 2001

IN NEW YORK CITY, Muslims can pray in public schools. Christians can’t. Muslims can assemble in school auditoriums, during school hours, and pray. Christians cannot.

So says the New York Post, in a Dec.1, 2000 article titled, “Muslim Kids Get To Pray In School For Ramadan,” by Carl Campanile. This article didn’t make it far in the national news. I found it referenced in a rather obscure Christian newspaper out of Fort Worth, Texas, The Hour of Prophecy.

I thought, “Are these Texans the only people that care? How could this situation not make national headlines?” It marks one of the most dramatic inconsistencies of Constitutional interpretation in recent history.

At Lafayette High School, in Bensonhurst, in Brooklyn Technical & International in Queens, and in other Brooklyn schools, Muslim students are allowed to assemble and worship publicly in school auditoriums or makeshift prayer rooms during the regular school day.

At Lafayette, “The school lets us do our own prayer. It’s beautiful,” said Umit Kulug, a 17-year-old senior from Turkey, according to the Post. “They let one hundred of us boys and girls pray together in a big auditorium. Some of the non-Islamic students get a pass to watch us pray.” Kulig said teachers help students catch up on what they missed in class.

On the other hand, the Post notes, a Bensonhurst school mural dedicated to youths who had died was painted over just a few weeks before Ramadan, because it featured Jesus Christ.

Christmas songs heralding the name of Christ are not allowed in public schools. There cannot be Bible reading or Christian prayer, because this violates the separation of church and state.

The First Amendment reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” Americans disagree on what this means. Chief Justice Rehnquist has opined that, “There is simply no historical foundation for the proposition that the Framers [of the Constitution] intended to build a wall of separation [between church and state].” (Wallace v. Jafree, 1985)

On the other hand, the Supreme Court ruled in 1962 that school prayer violated the Constitution. But how did any of this ever come to mean that Muslims can worship in public schools, but Christians can’t?

There is more.

In 1998, Tibetan monks conducted Tantric Buddhist devotionals in the public schools of Grand County, Utah, according to reports by the Jefferson 21st Century Institute. Two California school districts have introduced New Age curricula honoring Lucifer, God of Light.

Liberal authorities seem to show unlimited compassion for anything that is foreign to America’s foundational values. Is this the intent of the Constitution? If Christian worship in public schools is prohibited because it would be considered the state’s “respecting an establishment of religion,” then why doesn’t the same logic apply to the Muslim, Buddhist, New Age or Satanist religions?

Ralph Waldo Emerson considered a foolish consistency “the hobgoblin of little minds.” Recently, the Supreme Court took a step in the direction of Emersonian large-mindedness. On the front page of the Dallas Morning News, June 12, Mark Curriden reports that the U.S. Supreme Court “clarified a murky area of constitutional law involving the separation of church and state.” In “Justices Say Religious Clubs Can Meet At Public Schools,” Curriden seems to laud the court decision [Monday, June 11] that allows church groups to use public school facilities, so long as the meetings are open to the public.

The decision directly affects a situation in Dallas. The Dallas Independent School District had heretofore refused to let church groups use school facilities, rejecting more than 70 such requests just last year. Now the DISD is reversing its policy, and will allow churches, like any other civic group, to use school buildings.

So, we have Muslims allowed to worship in school, during school hours, and now Christian church groups can at least use the school buildings – after hours. It’s not exactly equality, but that has to be some kind of step in the right direction, no? Well, leave it to those freedom-loving Texans to at least report this news as well.

Don’t worry. I’m not going to advocate the peyote cult of my Comanche ancestor Mumsekai for public school practice. We Indians are much more reserved about our religious beliefs. I just think America needs to remember the principles it was built on. And I don’t think Islam, New Age-ism or Buddhism were among them.

Dr. David A. Yeagley will begin teaching humanities at the College of Liberal Studies, University of Oklahoma in the fall. His opinions are independent. He holds degrees from Yale, Emory, Oberlin, University of Arizona and University of Hartford.

10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:07 PM PST by SC DOC
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You are quite right that the state, including public schools, should strictly keep away from promoting any religion -- Muslim, Christian, "new-age", or whatever. Allowing the Muslim groups to hold meetings during school hours seems like pushing it a bit. Here's where I need some clarification. You said, "But how did any of this ever come to mean that Muslims can worship in public schools, but Christians can’t?" Do you know of some place where that is the case? Nothing else in the article suggests it. Are you quite sure that the school that is allowing the Muslims to congregate does not extend that privilege to Christian groups also? If so, you should definitely raise a stink about it. T&L
11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:43 PM PST by TrueLiberty
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To: NJ Freeper
Excuse me. You can't even use the word Christmas in the schools. It's Holidays.
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:54 PM PST by Havisham
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To: NJ Freeper
I mentioned the NYC public schools' accommodations to the Muslim children in another recent thread, but I've got a few more little tidbits to throw in the hopper. These are from my local school district:

1. "Every day is Earth Day," and boy, do they mean it. They mean it so much that "all entering kindergarteners will take an oath to protect Mother Earth and save her from Man's destruction."

2. Every year around Thanksgiving, the children are literally swamped with information about Indians, and hey...that's OK. The schools usually invite a speaker from one of the local tribes and the kids learn some native songs. Also OK. Trouble is, those very same songs are described (by the school) as "sacred."

Now, speaking as a nice Catholic girl who not only sang Hark, The Herald Angels Sing in school but also Dreidel, Dreidel, Dreidel, I have no problem with them learning "sacred" Indian songs. The problem is, the kids are no longer ALLOWED to sing Hark, The Herald Angels Sing anymore. It is my contention that you can't have it both ways, but the schools just go right ahead and ignore me. Fortunately, we have sent our oldest to Catholic school instead.

Regards,

14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:58 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: NJ Freeper
This is outrageous as well as discriminatory? Where is the ACLU? Anyone filing law suit?
15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:15 PM PST by Burlem
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