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U.S. Special Forces Joined Charge On Horseback Against Taliban
Bloomberg.com | November 15, 2001 | Tony Capaccio

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:12 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen

Washington -- U.S. special forces working with the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan have ridden in cavalry charges against Taliban militia positions, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz said.

``In Afghanistan, a country we think of in somewhat medieval terms, our special forces have taken a page from the past, from the history of the horse cavalry with our soldiers armed with swords and rifles, maneuvering on horseback,'' Wolfowitz said in a speech last night.

The Pentagon has said in general terms that U.S. special forces are working with Northern Alliance units to improve their military tactics, coordinate among their factions and direct strikes by U.S. aircraft against Taliban targets.

Wolfowitz read excerpts from declassified field reports that describe some of the experiences of those special forces in battle.

``I am advising a man on how best to employ light infantry and horse cavalry in the attack against Taliban T-55 (tanks), mortars, artillery, personnel carriers and machine guns -- a tactic which I think became outdated with the invention of the Gatling gun,'' wrote one commando in an October 25 report, Wolfowitz said. ``They have done this every day we have been on the ground.''

``I have observed a gunner who walked 10 plus miles to get to the fight, who was proud to show me his artificial right leg from the knee down,'' said the report.

The dispatch relayed how Northern Alliance horsemen ``bounded from spur to spur to attack Taliban strong points -- the last several kilometers under mortar, artillery fire. They have killed over 125 Taliban while losing only eight,'' the commando wrote.

``And with that,'' said Wolfowitz, ``one of our amazing special forces members went off on a cavalry charge with a Northern Alliance commander.''

Modern Communications

Wolfowitz noted that in addition to attacking with cavalry, U.S. special forces have used 21st century communications equipment to ``direct close air support and bomber strikes, sometimes from halfway around the world.''

In one instance, a U.S. soldier described calling in air strikes to stop an attack by Taliban troops and avoid being overrun, according to a declassified report Wolfowitz read.

Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has hinted that the role of special forces will increase in hunting down Taliban and al-Qaeda leaders as they retreat from strongholds such as Mazar-e-Sharif and Jalalabad.

Special forces teams are operating on their own in southern Afghanistan calling in air strikes on retreating Taliban and al- Qaeda forces, ``interdicting'' their retreat, Rumsfeld said yesterday.

No Ramadan Pause

Wolfowitz said the U.S. will continue bombing Taliban and al- Qaeda forces during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, which starts this weekend. There has been speculation that the bombing strikes would slow out of deference to Muslims and because the Taliban and al-Qaeda forces are in retreat.

``We have made it clear from the beginning that there are objectives that have got to be pursued regardless of Ramadan,'' Wolfowitz told Bloomberg News.

``Most Muslims understand that,'' Wolfowitz said. ``Obviously, we're sensitive to the fact that it's the holiest part of the Muslim year and that may have some tactical impact but we have to continue prosecuting this war. Hopefully, we'll have a lot less than we have to do by the time Ramadan comes to an end.''


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To: Republic
From the success of the calvary in Afghanistan now, I'm wondering if things would've turned out different in Vietnam had we used horses and taught the SVietnamese to use them.
61 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:47 PM PST by 3catsanadog
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To: 3catsanadog
Poppies.
62 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:48 PM PST by cajungirl
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To: sneakypete
!!!!!!!!
63 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:49 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: cynicom
These pics do not look too far removed from Ghengis Kahn....

Huh? Somebody ring?

64 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:53 PM PST by Ghengis
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"Hi, Ho down we go, there's no such word as can't...cause..... we're riding down to Kandahar...."

with apologies to that Great movie

65 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:53 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Diogenesis
This is awesome! Like an Indiana Jones movie. This will make a great Hollywood flick by this time next year. Charge!!!
66 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:53 PM PST by comncents
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Tanks without infantry support are targets. Imagine the frustration of the tank commanders. A similar tactic was used against the German panzer on the way to Stalingrad and back. Horses can carry small artillery pieces, and cossacks can cross ground that gives fits to tanks. They ride up, dismount, fire their cannon, destroy a tank or support vehicle, and disappear.
67 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:55 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: 3catsanadog
As near as I can tell, you could nuke the country and in most places couldn't tell the difference.
68 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:55 PM PST by freefly
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To: Prodigal Son
Why would putting an Infantryman on a horse be that much of a shock if it increases his mobility?

Near as I can tell, the media is trying to make them look primative (like they needed help!).
I guess none of them bothered to think about the fact that moving around in that country is DIFFICULT!
A horse is actually a very good option
69 posted on 11/16/2001 1:18:56 PM PST by freefly
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Now we have specHops and SEAHLs. And perhaps Green Berrrrrhhhhhay's. Way to go, and Tali-"ho".....
70 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:29 PM PST by tracer
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To: Billthedrill
Given a choice between walking to the battle (carrying ALL your gear) and riding...that's a CHOICE?
Unless you have a LOT of helicopters or paved roads, a horse is an excellent choice of transport.
(Sometimes even if you have both!)

Here's a BTTT for the Cavalry...
They still ride!
71 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:32 PM PST by freefly
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To: Travis McGee
``And with that,'' said Wolfowitz, ``one of our amazing special forces members went off on a cavalry charge with a Northern Alliance commander.''

Do you have any idea how jealous I am of all the fun these guys are having? I feel like I just drank a quart of battery acid. It's not going to be pretty if I ever manage to get my hands on that old SOB,"Father Time". He has a LOT to answer for!

72 posted on 11/16/2001 1:19:57 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: sneakypete
The stories those lucky dogs are going to have!
73 posted on 11/16/2001 1:20:31 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Col. Potter would be proud! ;>
74 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:39 PM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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To: Republic
the fact that some of our special forces, upon seeing the success of these NA tactics, actually mounted steeds and joined in an attack together with the NA, that really knocks me out.

Why is this surprising? It is a part of their jobs to show leadership and set examples,and you can't do this unless you are right up front where the fighting is. Besides,if you knew many of these guys,you would know they were probably fist-fighting each other to see who could ride in the calvary charge,and who had to lay back with the radios. Ain't NOBODY there who would want to miss out on a honest to goodness calvary charge! Do you have ANY idea how much mileage they can get out of this at the Sport Parachute Club?

75 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:44 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Stand Watch Listen; Diogenesis
Great post, Stand Watch Listen.

Great pix, Diogenesis.

76 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:44 PM PST by dighton
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To: Prodigal Son
I know of one SF officer who was really dissapointed that the army wouldn't allow him to shoot SF students with a 22,"so they could learn that getting shot isn't all that big a deal,and doesn't really hurt all that much.". Do you know who I am talking about? If you do,don't write his name on the public boards,FR it to me.
77 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:44 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: Prodigal Son
. One aspect of this training is the recognition that animals as a source of labor (water buffalo, horses, camels, donkeys etc) are very important to a people's survival.

BTW,there is a actual army field manual that details exactly how to load pack mules,including how to tie the knots. I believe it was developed by the original Phillipano Scouts in the pre-WW-2 era.

78 posted on 11/16/2001 1:21:45 PM PST by sneakypete
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To: 3catsanadog
They tend to be more surefooted in the hills(mts). So they say.
79 posted on 11/16/2001 1:24:56 PM PST by marty60
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To: r9etb
Not too long ago on FR, somebody posted something that mentioned how the Special Forces receive training in how to use and care for horses and mules.

This is true. My grandfather was an old muleskinner, and several of his friends trained Green Berets in this very subject back in the 80's, I think at Fort Huachuca in Arizona.

-ccm

80 posted on 11/16/2001 9:45:44 PM PST by ccmay
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