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To: JohnHuang2
He had me untill I got to. They ignore the one true God, who has revealed himself and his son, Jesus Christ,. Now he is another christian fundie foaming at the mouth.
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:03 PM PST by Libertarian_4_eva
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
With all due respect....your DISrespect is all wet. I used to think I had a lot of libertarian in me until I read a lot of the libertarians replies on various threads. If I'm wrong about the libertarian view, please educate me.

Nma Vet

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:04 PM PST by Nam Vet
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To: Libertarian_4_eva; ppaul; JohnHuang2
so he was right until he mentioned God and then he was a fanatic?? Sounds like your the fanatic.
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:04 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
you agreed with 99.9% of what he wrote but he's a christian fundementalist, foaming at the mouth, because he mentioned God.

that means your a libertarian fundementalist, you even attack and demean people who agree with you 99% of the time!

13 posted on 11/16/2001 1:15:05 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
He had me untill I got to. They ignore the one true God, who has revealed himself and his son, Jesus Christ,. Now he is another christian fundie foaming at the mouth.

As someone who also calls himself libertarian I have one question- Why?
There is nothing incompatible with religion and libertarianism. Darwin was a religious man, does this, in your view mean that his theory is incorrect? Einstein was also a religious person. I guess that means he was just a foaming at the mouth Jew? Come on, you're giving the rest of us a bad name. Maybe in the future you should give it a few minutes before you post.
Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt, eh?

23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:16:03 PM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Libertarian_4_eva; JohnHuang2
JH2 - thanks for posting this excellent article and for the flag.

Libertarian_4_eva, regarding your statement, "He had me untill I got to. They ignore the one true God, who has revealed himself and his son, Jesus Christ,. Now he is another christian fundie foaming at the mouth".

I am surprised the beginning did not also bother you:

There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
– Proverbs 14:12

God inspired that proverb, I think, precisely out of love for people who have your self-sufficient view; and also out of love for people, like me, who if God had not saved and helped, could have easily walked the same way leading unto spiritual death.

It the author really foaming at the mouth in this article? Hardly. Do you think that he is faking and is insincere in the belief that he expresses? If so, perhaps it would qualify as foaming at the mouth. But if he really believes what he says, then how could you respect him if he wrote his opinion dishonestly? It's his premise that you disagree with, that God exists and that Jesus is God and that people are supposed to let Him be their God.

I would be real surprised to hear that you believe, as do Christians, that Jesus is God. Anyone who based their life on something you don't believe must be crazy, and should not be listened to. And I believe that you do not like the way that many Christians act, and that you wish that you did not have to deal with Christianity or Christians.

I won't speculate on why you have such views. But I will say this: Libertarians should not be afraid to look for the Truth, and if they find it, to grab onto it and run with it. How hard have you really looked? As 'libertarians' are to 'liberals', so are 'activist Christians' to 'activist non-believers'. We see "The Big Lie" thrown our way all the time, we see the "at the man" attacks, the distortions, and the constant attempts to paint us as somehow less than human "foaming at the mouth"  creatures. And we see people unable to face what to us are obvious truths. "Feeling over fact...Historical ignorance...Cause and effect." It is completely transparent to us. And we are flabbergasted at such unbelieving narrow-mindedness, until God reminds us that without His grace through Jesus, we would be no different and also would not believe. When you cannot accept a premise, anyone living a life based on that premise will appear to be a fool, so it does not surprise me that you think Christian Fundamentalists foam at the mouth.

So to Christian readers, the end of the article came naturally and smoothly along, and we in fact, because of the logic in  the first part of the article, were already thinking it:

"But there is one final reason [why the left is almost always wrong]: They ignore the one true God, who has revealed himself and his son, Jesus Christ, and explained the workings of his Holy Spirit through the historical record contained in the Bible. Since God is by definition all knowing, all powerful and all present, we cannot understand our past, our present or our future without understanding what He has said about us and Himself. Western civilization is based upon this record, contained in the Bible."

I wish you the very, very best.

33 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:09 PM PST by Weirdad
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
You sir, and libertarians like you, are the reason why Libertarian candidates consistently get less votes than Mickey Mouse.
34 posted on 11/16/2001 1:22:12 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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