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Bin Laden's Nuclear Secrets Found In al-Qaeda's Kabul Safe House
The Times (UK) ^ | 11-15-2001 | Anthony Loyd

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:11:24 PM PST by blam

THURSDAY NOVEMBER 15 2001

Bin Laden's nuclear secrets found in al-Qaeda's Kabul safe houses

FROM ANTHONY LOYD IN KABUL

Times reporter finds blueprint for 'Nagasaki bomb'

Singed files left by fleeing terrorists

OSAMA BIN LADEN’S al-Qaeda network held detailed plans for nuclear devices and other terrorist bombs in one of its Kabul headquarters.
The Times discovered the partly burnt documents in a hastily abandoned safe house in the Karta Parwan quarter of the city. Written in Arabic, German, Urdu and English, the notes give detailed designs for missiles, bombs and nuclear weapons. There are descriptions of how the detonation of TNT compresses plutonium into a critical mass, sparking a chain reaction, and ultimately a thermonuclear reaction.

Both President Bush and British ministers are convinced that bin Laden has access to nuclear material and Mr Bush said earlier this month that al-Qaeda was “seeking chemical, biological and nuclear weapons”.

The discovery of the detailed bomb-making instructions, along with studies into chemical and nuclear devices, confirms the West’s worst fears and raises the spectre of plans for an attack that would far exceed the September 11 atrocities in scale and gravity.

Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. However, they emphasised that it was extremely difficult to build a viable warhead.

While the terrorists may not yet have the capability to build such weapons, their hopes of doing so are clear. One set of notes, written on headed notepaper from the Hotel Grand in Peshawar and dated April 26, 1998, says: “Naturally the explosive liquid has a very high mechanical energy which is translated into destructive force. “But it can be tamed, controlled and can be used as a useful propulsive fuel if certain methods are applied to it. A supersonic moving missile has a shock wave. That shock wave can be used to contain an external combustion behind the missile . . .”

The document was one of many found in two of four al-Qaeda houses which had been used by Arabs and Pakistanis and even reportedly by bin Laden himself. The houses — two in the Karta Parwan district and the others further to the east — were abandoned on Monday night as Taleban units and their allies fled the city in the face of the Northern Alliance advance.

Attempts had been made to burn the evidence, but many documents still remained. They included studies into the development of a kinetic energy supergun capable of firing chemical or nuclear warheads, external propulsion missiles, preliminary research on the creation of a thermonuclear device, as well as a multitude of instructions for making smaller bombs.

There were also studies into Western special forces’ hostage rescue techniques, phone numbers for industrial chemical and synthetic producers, flight manuals, aerodynamic research, and advanced physics and chemistry manuals.

The houses were checked after being identified by local people. Afghan looters had concentrated on removing more appetising objects, ignoring foreign language documents that were of no use to them.

Bin Laden has said it is his “religious duty” to obtain a nuclear bomb. In an interview with the Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir last week, he claimed that al-Qaeda had nuclear capability and said: “I wish to declare that if America used chemical or nuclear weapons against us then we may retort with chemical and nuclear weapons as deterrent." Intelligence agencies already have indirect evidence from defectors, middlemen and scientists of Bin Laden’s obsession with obtaining or producing a nuclear device.

Al-Qaeda agents are known to have spent more than £1 million trying to obtain enough fissile material to make a “dirty bomb” that, if detonated with TNT in a populous area, could kill thousands and contaminate it for decades.

Intelligence sources told The Times last month that bin Laden and al-Qaeda had acquired nuclear materials illegally from Pakistan. And at least ten Pakistani nuclear scientists have been contacted by agents for the Taleban and al-Qaeda in the past two years, according to reports.

The knowledge that bin Laden has components for a nuclear weapon is believed to lie behind the warnings from President Bush and Tony Blair that he would commit worse atrocities than the suicide assaults in America if he could.

The Prime Minister’s official spokesman said: “Bin Laden would have killed 600,000 people on September 11 if he could have done. This simply underlines again why he has to be stopped.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaida; nukes; terrorwar; wmd
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To: Sabertooth
The discovery of the detailed bomb-making instructions, along with studies into chemical and nuclear devices, confirms the West's worst fears and raises the spectre of plans for an attack that would far exceed the September 11 atrocities in scale and gravity. Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki. However, they emphasised that it was extremely difficult to build a viable warhead.

Bin Laden has said it is his "religious duty" to obtain a nuclear bomb.

It's time for him and his terrorist network to go!

121 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:57 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Sabertooth
You know what the Russians say with a nasty surprise like this?

Yob tvoyu mat!.

122 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:58 PM PST by hchutch
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To: Sabertooth
Did they make note on whether or not this bomb was being kept in an office in Harlem?
123 posted on 11/16/2001 1:12:58 PM PST by My Favorite Headache
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To: hchutch
Yob tvoyu mat!
124 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:04 PM PST by RonDog
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To: July 4th
Oh, you mean that bomb? C'mon. You can get those plans on the Internet! Now, if it's our W-88 warhead, then I'd worry...because it would mean they'd have been working with the Chinese.

Or that he was a large contributor to the DNC in 1996.

125 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:05 PM PST by ffrancone
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To: Kermit the Frog Does theWatusi
Re: post#111

They have Pods?!!!

126 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:05 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: BlackJack
...little by little more of the world will be destroyed...

Rude awakening if they think that then they can all move here!

127 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:06 PM PST by PoorMuttly
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To: blam
preliminary research on the creation of a thermonuclear device

yah, right. strapped to the back of a camel, no doubt.
if we ignore these wackos long enough, though, they will develop some nasty stuff.

iran and north korea will lead that pack. heads up.

in the meantime, on to samolia. ham sammiches for all!

128 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:07 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: blam
Sounds like your basic Diaperhead-fanatic bedtime reading material to me.

If this butthole had a nuke, he wouldn't have needed to steal 4 of our planes to attack 3 of our buildings.

How many of his planes did we have to steal to wipe out his whole world?

129 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:07 PM PST by Yankee
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To: King_of_Hindsight
lol
130 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:07 PM PST by jammer
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To: T'wit
A high school chemistry teacher of mine was replied to by a student who was asked why he wanted to learn Chemistry. The student replied rather jokingly "With Chemistry and Physics, I can learn how to build a Nuclear bomb", My teacher responded to this by saying, "Your local Library can help you with that more than I can".
131 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:10 PM PST by lmr
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To: Dan Day
Ask yourself this. If you don't have any fissionable material and your not constructing an a-bomb what the hell do you need a nuclear scientist for? Feasibility studies. Perhaps. I would think that feasability studies could be performed in Pakistan. I am thinking they were doing something they NEEDED to be THERE for.

I dunno but if I am going to costruct a device I would call up my friendly neighborhood Pakistani nuclear scientist and ask him what I need, and he would tell me. No reason for him to visit (and it would be DANGEROUS for HIM to VISIT) until I have what HE needs.

Just a thought.. But let's refer to the Pakistanit nuclear scientist BUMP list:

Two Pakistani nuclear scientists acknowledge meeting Osama bin Laden

Detained Pakistani Nuclear Scientist Admitted to Hospital After Chest Pains

The above article is about Sultan Bashir-ud-Din Mehmood and the article says:

"Mehmood, one of Pakistan's top nuclear scientists, played a crucial role in helping the nation become a nuclear power in the 1990s"

I wonder if it was something he did while in Afghanistan that is causing him chest pains now.

Pakistani Nuclear Scientists May Have Helped Taliban

Pakistani nuclear scientists questioned about ties to Taliban leader

Let's face it. If you are just going to pass on information to Al Qaeda you don't need need to COME to Afghanistan. It would be stupid of you to do so. The only reason to come is if they have something to show you or more likely something for you to work on.

132 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:14 PM PST by Smogger
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To: lmr
What do you want to bet that these jokers pulled something off the internet like these 2 links just to look like big stuff? Of course these idiots might have tried this:

Dr. Strangelove

How to build an H-Bomb

133 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:16 PM PST by JDGreen123
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To: blam
Nice job. Shoot, as a newbie I am shamed. Maybe I will get my own breaking news post someday.The only question I had is how come we did not know where Osama's safe house was BEFORE we got into Kabul.If our intellegience departments had not been ransacked years ago we might have blown ole Bin Ladin an his plans to kingdom come.

The idea that a madman who plotted the WTC disaster is even thinking of clean fission bombs or dirty bombs makes me lose sleep at night.Bummer.

134 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:17 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: blam
I am no longer a "breaking news virgin" either. The only one I've ever had was the Boeing move of headquarters out of Seattle. But then, I live here, so I had an advantage on that one. Do you live in Kabul?
135 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:34 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: blam
Nuclear experts say the design suggests that bin Laden may be working on a fission device, similar to Fat Man, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki.

He'll need an extra large camel to deliver that hummer.

136 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:34 PM PST by Kevin Curry
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Which makes it important to take him out. I do not care about the methods anymore. We do a 187 on him, and we do it good. Stuff a slice of ham or two down his mouth, then take him to some ditch off an interstate, and leave him to the vultures.

Oh, wait, PETA may have something to say about leaving this creep out for the vultures.

137 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:35 PM PST by hchutch
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To: BlackJack
One of the Pakistani nuclear scientists helped him design flour mills. Couldn't that be a part of a nuclear project such as the one Iraq was trying that was described in the book Brighter than the Baghdad Sun?
138 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:41 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Freedom of Speech Wins
One of the Pakistani nuclear scientists helped him design flour mills. Couldn't that be a part of a nuclear project such as the one Iraq was trying that was described in the book Brighter than the Baghdad Sun?

Hehehe.. Flour Mills. What a great cover. Did you check out my Pakistani nuclear scientist bump list? Scaaaary!

139 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:42 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Grampa Dave
"With this information, we now must kill every Taliban member, al-Qaeda member, those who have financed and provided shelter to these Islamic terrorists and of course OBL, Omar, their scientists and the rest of the Islamic Terrorists in other Islamic states. We must not leave a single one of these Islamic asps to plot more violence on us!"

gee, I got that good old warm and fuzzy feeling reading that paragraph!
140 posted on 11/16/2001 1:13:44 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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