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To: okie01
I don't consider the placement of the rudder in the debris field to be that great of significance simply because the rudder weighs much less than the vert. stab. Upon separation, the rudder could have easily floated 200 yards closer to crash site.

This is one thing I find interesting...

Black said the Airbus stopped sending transponder signals at an altitude of about 3,000 feet, indicating that something -- such as a major structural failure -- cut the unit's power. "Primary" target returns -- indicating aircraft or large pieces of debris without working transponders -- began at that point, Black said.

10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:16 PM PST by Solson
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To: Solson
"Black said the Airbus stopped sending transponder signals at an altitude of about 3,000 feet, indicating that something -- such as a major structural failure -- cut the unit's power."

Which occurred at 144 seconds, 37 seconds after the first "airframe rattle" (a travel distance of, say, a bit more than a mile-and-a-half).

Could the first "airframe rattle" be the vertical stab coming loose, but not separating? Then, could the "wake turbulence" mentioned at 114 seconds be a "weathervaning" effect from the slowly detaching fin? And does the second "airframe rattle" at 121 seconds denote the departure of the vertical stab and rudder some 6 seconds before one of the pilots announces "loss of control" at 127?

Seventeen seconds later, about half a mile away, the plane breaks up and goes straight down.

This chain of events seems to put the vertical stabilizer in its proper place on the flight path, a half mile short of impact.

17 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:34 PM PST by okie01
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To: Solson
Black said the Airbus stopped sending transponder signals at an altitude of about 3,000 feet, indicating that something -- such as a major structural failure -- cut the unit's power. "Primary" target returns -- indicating aircraft or large pieces of debris without working transponders -- began at that point, Black said.
Has there ever been anything other than a explosion or on-board fire that caused enough damage to an airframe that power (and/or the audio input) to the cockpit voice recorder is lost before impact? Oh yeah, I forgot: an exploding center fuel tank. I wonder if anyone has the titanium balls to try that theory.
23 posted on 11/16/2001 1:10:43 PM PST by eno_
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