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Are Americans Ready To Accept A Police State?
Toogood Reports ^ | November 14, 2001 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:17 PM PST by Starmaker

Current trends seem to suggest that America may not be the "land of the free" much longer. In the wake of the September 11 terrorist attacks on New York and Washington, our federal government seems committed to the proposition that freedom is expendable if expunged in the name of security. Even more disturbing is the fact that a majority of the American people seems fine with the idea.

Fox News recently reported, "A handful of U.S. senators and some in the Bush administration are calling for changes in a 150-year-old statute, known as the Posse Comitatus Act, that keeps the military out of the business of domestic laws enforcement."

The Posse Comitatus Act became law in 1878 in order to end military occupation of the Reconstruction-era South. It states, "Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army, as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both." However, both Republicans and Democrats appear ready to amend or scrap Posse Comitatus to allow the U.S. military to engage American citizens.

Georgia Democrat, Max Cleland, said, "We've got to figure out a new Posse Comitatus that allows the Department of Defense to step forward and defend America." Virginia Republican, John Warner, echoed Cleland's sentiment in a letter to the Secretary of Defense asking his department to "re-examine military doctrines to enable our active duty military to more fully join other domestic assets in the war against terrorism."

Using military forces for domestic law enforcement was anathema to America's Founding Fathers. Subsequent generations of Americans, likewise, found the idea repulsive — but such is not the case today.

A local newspaper, The Florida Sun, recently asked Pensacolians, "Is it worth giving up your personal freedom and privacy for greater national security?" A significant majority responded in the affirmative. It is noteworthy that the area served by this paper, the Florida panhandle, is among the most conservative districts in the nation. Yet, even in this bastion of political conservatism and Bible-belt spirituality, freedom does not seem as fashionable as it once did. All that seems to matter nowadays is "security."

This reminds me of a quotation attributed to Benjamin Franklin. He is reputed to have said, "They who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." However, Franklin's concept seems lost to the current generation of Americans.

Instead, the vast majority of our neighbors and friends seem quite content to voluntarily surrender their liberties to an ever-increasing and extremely intrusive federal government. Neither does it seem to matter whether they are Democrats or Republicans. Both appear more than ready to accept a European-style police state.


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1 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:17 PM PST by Starmaker
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To: Starmaker
Freedom has it price tag. Would you give up some of your right to drive your car anywhere you wanted at anytime just because it would cut down on the accident rate? Think about it.
2 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:23 PM PST by Elihu Burritt
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To: Starmaker
This reminds me of a quotation attributed to Benjamin Franklin. He is reputed to have said, "They who give up essential liberty for temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." However, Franklin's concept seems lost to the current generation of Americans.

Nuts ta Ben Franklin. He was a freaky, long haired hippy, slave owning, Hellfire Club-belonging to troublemaker who hung out with the French! Grrrrrr! <\sarcasm>

Besides..I'm sure the nice police state will go away when we don't need it anymore. :)
3 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:23 PM PST by WyldKard
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To: Elihu Burritt
NO.
5 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:27 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Elihu Burritt
No.
6 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:28 PM PST by Hank Rearden
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To: MRAR15Guy56
So the price tag for freedom is - freedom itself. Dolt.

The price tag for freedom is that same as it always has been. Some blood. If we all stayed home and only drove when Big brother told us too, there would be fewer accidents. The same will apply to whatever else you let your government think up for you. It is far far easier to give away your rights than it is to maintain them.

7 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:30 PM PST by Elihu Burritt
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To: Elihu Burritt
thought about it and...

NO

8 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:30 PM PST by fod
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To: Elihu Burritt
Every day I become more convinced than ever that we are rapidily approaching the day when blood wiil run in the streets of our Country.

Tyranny will not spring up overnignt, rather it will be brought about like a death of a thousand cuts, a little more tryanny added to the little more tryanny already in place.

We are in very dangerous times my friends. Far to many of our citizens do not appreciate freedom and do not understand how it was obtained or what the price of freedom really is.

I guess I'm feeling a little gloomy for my Country today.

9 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:45 PM PST by My dog Sam
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To: My dog Sam
It's sad when the "Conservatives" adopt the idea that the Constitution is a living document which may be interpreted or ignored as necessary. (Of course, many people thing that both conservatives and liberals and a few others believe just that anyway.)
10 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:51 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Starmaker
This was sarcasm ... right? I don't know who all was polled, but I sure would like to see the break down of those statistics. Such a proposal would float like a lead balloon where I live.
11 posted on 11/16/2001 1:07:53 PM PST by so_real
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To: My dog Sam
Would you fly with all the BS security? You know security is not working.This country wouldn't stay prosperous if it became a police state.The love of money may keep our freedoms a bit longer.Police state will not remove fear. You're right about Freedom we don't understand it because we choose to live in our comfort zones.Life isn't good if its not right. Hard times will get us out of our comfort.
12 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:33 PM PST by Micah
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To: Starmaker
No ... not for any reason ... even this
14 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:47 PM PST by clamper1797
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To: Starmaker
"Are Americans Ready To Accept A Police State?"

If you are willing to wander freely inside a small cage while all others are free to go anywhere outside the cage, then you are willing to effectively give up your freedom.

If you think being inside the cage will protect you and you are better off being safe than truly free, then you are not free.

Even though those in prison have given up their freedom they are protected and "safe" from all the harms outside prison. Is that the safety we desire?

Freedom is not safety and security. Freedom has cost but you are free to make your own choices as to what cost you will pay.

15 posted on 11/16/2001 1:08:48 PM PST by tberry
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