PAUL HARVEY RECALLS BLACK PANTHER HISTORY WITH BILL & HILLARY CONNECTION

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[LarryLied]

This story is really beginning to bug me. There is not one fact in the article which is incorrect. But the left, and some here, are calling it all an "urban legend" because it is wrongly attributed to Paul Harvey...grrrrrr.

I was at several of the Yale Law school events preceding the May Day protest on the New Haven green. I darn well know what the sentiment of those at the Yale Law school (and Yale in general) was at the time. You could not find anyone who did not support the Panthers. If Hillary did not play a pivotal role in the shut down of the school and of New Haven, it was not for lack of effort on her part. It was because she was an ugly little hippie chick no one took that seriously.

[LarryLied]

May the thread die

Please read my comment in #41. If you want more details about the events at the Law School, the protest on the green and the riots in New Haven, I'll be glad to freep mail them.

[Aliska]

I'll see if I can get to the bottom of it if I can.

Even if the story is true, sometimes lawyers are called upon to defend people whose idealogy is not to their liking, as in public defender or $$$.

[GWfan]

Hi DP-

Barbara Olsen's book, as I mentioned in the earlier post, has a section called 'Hillary and the Black Panthers', page 54. I will re-read it and get back to this thread in a minute.

[Aliska]

P.S. I know on another thread, another topic, somone accused you of misrepresenting the facts and it turned out you were telling the truth so I will most definitely give you the benefit of the doubt on this one.

[Bullish]

They have an awful lot to answer to God for. Bill and Hillary are pure evil!

They need to be brought to justice and the sooner the better!

[Z-28]

Well Paul Harvey, what'd you expect from the wife of someone who pardons FLNA terrorists?

[cinFLA]

Everytime you post this you claim it is from a reliable source.

[LarryLied]

Thanks. I was a senior in HS making a couple bucks extra taking pictures and stringing for the New Haven Register. Covered a speech at the Yale Law school by Doctor Benjamin Spock. William Sloan Coffin and a couple Panthers were there and spoke. All the big shots and wannabees attended and planned out future action. I would be surprised if Her Highness was not in the room(small crowd, probably 200). This was shortly before the rally on the green which drew over 7,000. What is omitted from this account is all this activity was not only in defense of the Panthers, it was anti-war activity. In fact, that, in my opinion, was the driving force behind it all. None of the suburban kids would have come into New Haven to rally in favor of the Panthers. They were more interested in rallying to end the draft (as well as getting high and finding a date, the protest was more a social event than a protest).

[Rustybyrd]

Oh dear... Ted and George should be long any minute, now...

[LarryLied]

Here is where the confusion comes in. The left is claiming that saying Hillary "defended" the Panthers means she legally defended them. She didn't. She wasn't a lawyer at the time. But she did help out a lawyer who did. And no, she wasn't helping a cause in which she did not believe as lawyers and lawyers aids do. Her work on the Yale newspaper makes very clear where her politics were at the time.

[crosdaddy]

isn't this story out of Horowitz's book, "Hateing Whitey"?

[Tatze]

Just last week, Neal Boortz alluded to this piece, that HE wrote in November 1999. The link to this recent mention is http://www.boortz.com/nov5-01.htm. Scroll down and look for the heading "ANOTHER REASON TO SHUT DOWN THE UN." I dont know, but doubt, if the original from Nov 99 is still available on his site.

[tillacum]

I read an article in the Reader's Digest some years ago, that the VERY active activists of the 1960s have put themselves in positions that would lead to positions of power and pursuasion, i.e., churches, journalism, politics, education in the lower and higher levels of learning. These are the "fish" who bit the bait of Lenin and Stalin of the 1930s. In the 1930s and 1940s the communist/socialist party of the US would not allow any foreign born citizen to be a card carrying communist, because the leaders of the USSR did not want the American public to know that the Communist Party of the US was receiving orders and direction directly from Mother Russia. The schools of journalism were the first to be "invaded" by professors educated in the communist way, but who had graduated from American universities and colleges, so we have now many journalists who spout the communist/socialist jargon. CNN is a very good example, and another, Dan Blather, who says, paraphrase, "No journalist should be a Patriot". Good, then he should go to a country that will allow him to be a journalist for that country, telling the "real poop", even when it gives that country a black eye. Peter Jennings, a canadian, who blames America for the war in the Pacific. Tom Browkrow who rides his father's WWII military coattails on the road to patriatism, but spouts the communist line. i.e., defending the traitor/rapist-in-chief by not telling what this scumbug had done to Juanita Broderick.

Ted Turner who loves the UN so much he has given millions of dollars, in increments, for their anti-American verbage, let him live in the Sudan, Africa, Indonesia, VietNam, China or one of the other "nations" who allow him to buy millions of acrage for his baronship.

Jane Fonda, who lived as a very privileged child and teenager (no fault of her own) then during the VietName conflict, claimed to own only two dresses,(to show her socialist/communist love of non-ownership)then went to VietNam, in front of our Prisoners of War, claimed they were criminals, and today,lives the life of a privileged American because of our laws protecting freedom of speech and laws governing War vs Conflict.

Korea was not a WAR it was a conflict, VietNam was not a war, but a conflict, so American born people who do not love this country and it's many freedoms, can be traitors against our cause and not pay for the treachory they have caused. Afoeganistan has not been declared a war. WHY? Where is the courage of our fathers who, as representatives and senators declared war in 1941? Have we raised up wimps who do not have this kind of stand up and be counted courage?

If we are to put American military personnel in a battle situation, where bombs drop, bullets fly, our people die, are maimed, then that situation should be called a WAR. During a war if treason is done by word and deed, as was done in VietNam, we can then discharge, to the fullest, an obligation to prevent any further harm to our cause and country.

[LarryLied]

Bush did not want a declaration of war for because of much of what you just wrote. He doesn't want Democrat traitors involved anymore than necessary. Imagine Tom Daschle using his vote for war as a political weapon. Something goes wrong (as it will now and then) and little Tommy is out in front of cameras whining about how Bush lied to him and if he had his vote to cast over again. . .blah...blah...blah. Plus, Democrats, once they declared war, could also declare the war over. You want Daschle and Gephardt up there taking credit on V day? A V day which may not even be that?

[clodkicker]

I had the same reaction. I am almost sure I heard this on Paul Harvey and not too long ago.

[Aliska]

I'm kinda of a numbnut when it comes to that old Eastern seaboard political action stuff. I went to a midwest university and politics was very far from my mind at the time. In any event, I hate war but there are times when we must stand and fight. I was married to a serviceman during Vietnam and as scary as the whole scenario was, I never would have protested the war and found it odd that people were lying in front of trains. All I knew was the domino theory and, with one or two exceptions, it seems to have been right on. I still think we fought Vietnam with our hands tied behind our backs and the people would have been better off if we had been allowed to win.

Your experiences are interesting. I sort of went through a liberal phase but came to believe in time that their thinking is unrealistic and utopian, and most of us know what became of ye olde utopian experiments in American history.

[Aliska]

I thought part of the reason was that if we declared war we would have to abide by the Geneva convention. We get a little more leeway by not declaring war, not that I think we should do anything we want and conduct ourselves to the most humane principles possible in the circumstances.

[Aliska]

Slyfox on this thread said he heard it as well. I'll see tomorrow if I can corroborate it.

What I time I had getting that link to code! I have trouble remembering how to do it and always have to go back and check source code.

[Aliska]

Her politics then and now aren't necessarily the same.