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To: TimSkalaBim
I guess get over it is not an option? Osama should remember that the first former Ottoman territory to gain idependence was the least developed one, his native Saudi Arabia, ruled by the fundamentalist Wahhabis and their Saudi subsidizers, both bent on 13th century life style as their first choice. To this very date, public executions (stoning to death and beheading) are public "entertainment" in Saudi Arabia. Not a single church to be found in that land of Islam (so much for tolerance of states such as Saudi Arabia and Qatar -- another Wahhabi holdout!).

Besides the Armenian holocaust, the 500-year Ottoman legacy is a source of deep seated hatred, intolerance and instability in the Balkans, not to talk of its primitive way of life. Janissaries, Turkish elite troops, were made up of kidnapped Christian boys, ages 7 to 14. The kidnappings, knowin in Serb lands as danak u krvi or tribute in blood, were repeated annually. The boys would be taken to Istanbul, forced to convert to Islam and conscripted into the military for life. Impaling rebellious Serbs and other was a favorite punishment. For those who don't know much about this, a stake is driven through the victim's anus and upper torso; the victim is then lifted like a pig on a spit, vertically and left there to die. Death is slow and agonizing, sometimes lasting several hours.

Just like Osama, the accomplishments of the Ottomans in the history are ecclipesed by the evil they caused. Ottomans left much more destruction, hate and discontent than culture and civlization behind them. Lamenting over this lost "paradise" in the likes of Osama and others is analogous to lamenting over Mussolini's fascit Italy -- by ignoring its wrongdoings in Africa and Europe and concentrating on the fact that (for the first time in history) Italian trains were on time.

6 posted on 11/12/2001 9:57:46 AM PST by kosta50
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To: kosta50; Pericles
I checked the linked source in the article and saw this:

"A positive feature in Ottoman administration was the religious toleration generally extended to all non-Muslims. This, however, did not prevent occasional massacres ..."

Religious toleration, Ottoman style - What a hoot.
9 posted on 11/12/2001 10:18:06 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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