Passenger Plane Crash in Queens NYC!

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[Attila_the_Hun]

AA Passenger plane has crashed in Queens, live video on Fox News... Developing!

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AIRPLANE DOWN IN QUEENS

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Source: news
Published: 11/12/01 Author: RaceBannon
Posted on 11/12/01 9:38 AM Eastern by RaceBannon

All I know

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1 posted on 11/12/01 9:38 AM Eastern by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon

ALL NEW YORK AIRPORTS CLOSED. IT IS ON NBC TV

2 posted on 11/12/01 9:39 AM Eastern by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon

AMERICAN AIRLINES BOEING 767

3 posted on 11/12/01 9:39 AM Eastern by RaceBannon
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[piasa]

Looks like it went down in an area of very nice homes.

Pentagon says no notice of foul play to Dept of Defense- Norad received no distress calls or info of a change in course relayed from FAA. Aircraft went down right after takeoff.

There is a fighter cap as usual but fighters were not called to the plane. Fighters were alerted after the fact and one just flew over site- an F-15, probably to report back on what can be seen and to ward off other air traffic.

FBI says no warning or threats have been recieved.

12 buildings on fire... small buildings. Schools were closed for veteran's day.

[Dialup Llama]

>ABC news interviewing eyewitness named Jackie Powers

ABC has had the Jackie Powers chick on for the past hour. Her panicky reports are good radio, but she sounds like a kook. She saw the plane just before it went into the ground. Aviation "expert" John Nance from Indiana then speculated that it could have been an "incendiary device." Great call John. Get Miss Cleo for more accurate results.

Earlier they played a interview tape of this guy (they just played it once, guess it didn't make good radio). This guy saw the whole event. He was looking at the plane from before the event began happened. He said he saw an engine fall off. Then after 15 seconds the plane tilted and flew into the ground (it was at this point that eyewitness Jackie Powers took notice of the plane).

[The Truth Will Make You Free]

I turned on CNN. I heard, "There's not a lot we know at this point." Then I heard, "There's a tremendous amount of confusion at the ground site."

I turned off CNN. No point in listening to people who don't know what's going on and are confused. (Which is a pretty normal discription of CNN.)

[nicmarlo]

A timed bomb is EXACTLY what this sounds like.

And full of fuel!!!

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Flash didn't occur in the center (fuel location).

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

Two eyewitnesses interviewed live by phone on Fox News Marlene and John reported an explosion while the plane was in the air. Marlene heard plane and went outside to watch then saw explosion. Report of wing on fire too.

[Nuke'm Glowing]

I hate to say this, but it would not take a large bomb to cause the explosion described by the eyewitness. One small block of C-4 with a barometric trigger would do the trick. And that is what scares the hell out of me. The airport security is still a joke and I'll bet my life savings that JFK has YET to do any background checks or fire any suspicious employees that work the ramp. God help us all. And let's start warming up the birds in the bullpen.

[annalex]

Technology exists to authenticate wireless network traffic (e.g. RADIUS, going into Windows XP). That's to say, the plane's autopilot won't respond to anyone but the control tower personnel.

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Plane Crashes in Queens

News/Current Events
Source: The Associated Press
Published: 11/12/01 Author: Unknown
Posted on 11/12/01 9:45 AM Eastern by Aztech

Plane Crashes in Queens

The Associated Press
Monday, November 12, 2001; 9:31 AM NEW YORK –– A plane crashed Monday morning near Beach 129th Street and Newport Avenue, in the Rockaways, Queens.

Buildings reportedly were on fire in the neighborhood. Thick, black smoke could be scene in televised reports.

The type of plane was not immediately known.

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Here you go...

1 posted on 11/12/01 9:45 AM Eastern by Aztech
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Plane Down in New York

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Source: news
Published: 11-12-2001
Posted on 11/12/01 9:43 AM Eastern by Tuco-bad

Plane Down in Rockaways in New York Boeing 767.

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1 posted on 11/12/01 9:43 AM Eastern by Tuco-bad
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[GOPJ]

And what are the odds? What do they think?

I work in an airline dispatch office and our maintenence personel and the dispatchers here are speculating on catastrophic engine failure taking the hydraulics with it.

[joathome]

"Re: Bomb theories. I would think it difficult to plant a timed bomb because with airport delays and all you wouldn't know when it would go off."

So, the bomb would go off on the runway, and not in the air. Kill less people. It would still scare the you-know-what out of everyone. I think terrorists are going to do what they can when they can. Any kind of bomb is a possibility.

[MomwithHope]

This does sound like a bomb, or a single terrorist willing to blow himself up. Praying hard for the victims and the firemen. Sick of even FOX and the eggshell walking saying there is no evidence this is a terrorist act.
It's New York F** C***** S***. This has been their target.
Caller on Fox just said the wing is in a gas station on 159th street.

[GOPJ]

And what are the odds? What do they think?

I work in an airline dispatch office and our maintenence personel and the dispatchers here are speculating on catastrophic engine failure taking the hydraulics with it.

[michigander]

could a lone engine cause that much smoke?

Probably depends on what it hit on the ground.

[The Kitten]

Bin Laden has conveyed his rage against the UN. No matter what we think of Kofi and Company, rest assured that bin Laden hates them in a homicidal way and intends to destroy them. Since I have a lot of friends there, I am pretty frightened for them. Over here in Times Square, there are lots of weird alarms going off and emergency vehicles rushing by.

[isom35]

maybe we can get the satellite pictures from the sat. website before the gov buys them all.

[anniegetyourgun]

Re; silas....many folks on this site are as paranoid as they come. They never have any evidence, they have no special knowledge, and they provide no motive. When you question their "intelligence" they will always react in insult (sometimes including foul language). The reactions indicate just how imbalanced they are. Best to stay far away from such people.

[Gordian Blade]

SAM leaves a very prominant stream of rocket booster smoke leading from launch point on ground to impact point on A/C.

The big ones certainly do. However, I saw a TV story years ago where they filmed a Muj unit shooting down a Russian military jet with a Stinger. The TV report showed the whole thing from launch to impact. It didn't make all that much smoke or noise. And it didn't cause the Russian jet to explode all at once either. (Of course, we're talking about a civilian airliner here.)