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To: Zviadist
We've "given it a try" too many times to count, from Somalia to Bosnia to Haiti to Kosovo and so on and so on. There simply is no record of a single success;

Post-WW II Japan, Germany, post-cold-war Russia, not to mention Panama, and a lot of others we had a hand in helping a new government to form, but hadn't fought a war with first.

Would you care to retract your bogus statement?

What is the saying about continuing to do the same thing and expecting different results being the definition of insanity?

And what's the old saying about the dishonesty of mentioning only the things that support your claim, and pretending that counter-examples don't exist?

67 posted on 11/12/2001 1:37:23 PM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day

Post-WW II Japan, Germany, post-cold-war Russia, not to mention Panama, and a lot of others we had a hand in helping a new government to form, but hadn't fought a war with first. Would you care to retract your bogus statement?

What on earth are you talking about? First, Germany and Japan, as already discussed, essentially rebuilt themselves without US assistance, most of which was political (denazification etc).

And post Cold War Russia???? You are holding this up as a great success of nation-building??? Do you have even a minor clue about where our money was wasted in Russia? Corruption is STILL estimated at 15 billion dollars a year. You think Russia is a great success of our nation-building? Seriously, I would really like to know why you feel this way. What is your criteria?

And Panama??? This is your only other example of successful nation-building? You call this a success? Been to Panama lately?

And what's the old saying about the dishonesty of mentioning only the things that support your claim, and pretending that counter-examples don't exist?

THESE are your counter-examples??? Again, what is you criteria for success? Otherwise, I rest my case.

74 posted on 11/12/2001 2:54:48 PM PST by Zviadist
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