Forgive my ignorance, but are you some sort of moderator? I certainly hope you don't feel responsible for other people's posts on either side of this argument, because you're not - but you certainly seem to be attempting to get control over this conversation - not just now, but ever since the very first group of posts. I don't say this with malice; it's just that it seems to me that if you want to be productive and civil, be that. Assuming we're all adults here, I think we're all capable of finding those parameters for ourselves - unless, of course, you are officially in charge or something. If you are, please forgive my questioning you.
I am not a FR moderator, and don't mean to assert an authority I don't have, or to suggest I can compel anyone to do anything.
My entire purpose on this thread has been to try, in my own posts, to moderate the tone of the recent Keyes column discussions, and to ask others to do the same, sometimes by exhoration or a mild word of rebuke.
I'm sorry if my manner of doing this offended you. No offense was meant.
We haven't met on the forum before, so I take the liberty of telling you my insititutional connection to Keyes: I am the President of The Declaration Foundation, and Keyes is the Chairman of that foundation. You can see the nature of our work by dropping by the site.
Best to you,
Richard F.