[Howlin]

Forget the evidence for your position. This is exactly the kind of thing that does no one any good.

Is that your idea of how to get off to a good start, implying that even though she may be right, never mind?

[Amelia]

We should probably all take this part of rdf's advice to heart:

Don't respond to baiting from irrational and bitter folks.

In fact, I'm sure that had I followed this advice, this thread would be at least 9 posts shorter now.